Mandeville, LA - Exclusive Transcript - If you’d really like to be learned about this, go take your Google browser and download the entire document that is today known as the Bill of Rights.  Download it and that includes the ratification instructions and the preamble that goes along with it.  Come back and tell me that that amendment you cite is pointed anywhere other than at the new general government, which was just meeting for the first time in New York City in 1789.  It’s pointed at them, sir, end of story.  That’s who it’s pointed at.  It’s not pointed at the state. Check out today's audio and transcript for the rest...

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Mike:  Jeff is in California, next up on the Mike Church Show, Sirius XM Patriot Channel.  Hello, Jeff.

Caller Jeff:  How you doing, Mike?

Mike:  I’m wonderful.

Caller Jeff:  Educate me.  I’ve been listening to Sirius now for three months.  It seems to me that you, sir, are recommending to our government that if they’d like to ban our weapons or guns, to do it at the state level and there it can be done.

Mike:  Yeah, Jeff, that’s what I said.  I recommended that they should ban your weapons.  That’s exactly what I said, verbatim.

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Caller Jeff:  Not exactly that they should but if they were to do it, to do it at the state level.  I hear it week after week after week.

Mike:  Jeff, I don’t know where you’re hearing this, but you’re not hearing it from me.

Caller Jeff:  From you.

Mike:  No, you’re not.  Quote it.  Go ahead and quote it back to me.

Caller Jeff:  Here’s what I’m saying.  The right to bear arms shall not be infringed for the people, that’s us, you included.

Mike:  No, no.

Caller Jeff:  That can be banned at the state level.

Mike:  No, Jeff, no.  That’s not what it says.  What it says is -- if you’d really like to be learned about this, go take your Google browser and download the entire document that is today known as the Bill of Rights.  It was not known as that then but it is now known as the Bill of Rights.  Download it and that includes the ratification instructions and the preamble that goes along with it.  Come back and tell me that that amendment you cite is pointed anywhere other than at the new general government, which was just meeting for the first time in New York City in 1789.  It’s pointed at them, sir, end of story.  That’s who it’s pointed at.  It’s not pointed at the state.  Does that mean that I think you don’t have a right to defend yourself?  Come on, man.

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Caller Jeff:  I keep hearing this message from you over and over again, that the states have the right to take our weapons.

Mike:  The states have the right to regulate, to make regular.  Let’s just say, for example, they choose to pass ordinance where they say blind people cannot purchase ARs, do you have a problem with that?

Caller Jeff:  Yeah, because that starts down a slippery slope.

Mike:  No, no, everybody has the right.  Why can’t the blind guy have the right to defend himself?

Caller Jeff:  I have no problems with blind people buying a rifle.

Mike:  Great.  And you don’t have any problem with them shooting them when you’re in close proximity?

Caller Jeff:  That’s different.

Mike:  No, it’s not.  How about the mentally deranged?  How about those that have been psychiatrically evaluated and proven to be criminally insane or nutso, yet they’re roaming the California --

Caller Jeff:  How about former Marines?  How about the general public?

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Mike:  Jeff, I’m asking you very simple, reasoned questions.  How about the mentally deranged?  Do we have a problem with them purchasing a firearm?

Caller Jeff:  Of course we do.

Mike:  Okay.  How about the children that are born and, through no fault of their own, may have suffered some kind of a mental birth defect and cannot tell right from wrong?  Should we allow them to go off to Wal-Mart and buy a weapon?

Caller Jeff:  Of course you know that’s --

Mike:  No, I don’t know, because you told me that I am a gun banner.  I’m simply telling you --

Caller Jeff:  No, it seems to me you’re informing the state legislators how to get this done.

Mike:  Yeah, Jeff, I’m in on it.  Stephanie Cutter, President Obama’s campaign director, she bought me a Maserati to do this.  Did you know that?

Caller Jeff:  No, I don’t.

Mike:  It’s awesome.  It’s a black convertible.  Jeff, I was paid off.

Caller Jeff:  Are you saying the states can just take the weapons from us, forget about the Second Amendment?

Mike:  Jeff, the Second Amendment does not apply to the states.  If you live in a state that is going to ban your weapon and try to confiscate them, you live in a sovereign state.  You as a member of those sovereign people have a say-so in that endeavor.  I would hope that would not happen and not be the case.  Yes, living in a sovereign state, they can take your gun, they can take your ammo, they can take your pork and beans, they can take your automobile.  They can take your money, we know that from the power of taxation.  They can take your land.  Yes, that’s part of living in a sovereign state, of living in something organized with people who share common cause to live together.  Yes, that is within their power.  Do I agree with it?  In most instances, no, I do not.

Caller Jeff:  Well, Patriot listeners, bury your weapons and wait for the word.  That’s all I got to say.

Mike:  Wonderful.

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