Mandeville, LA - Exclusive Audio and Transcript - Caller Richard thinks that the Ron Paul supporters should just "go along with the machine" and try and change the GOP from the inside. Well Richard, when has that ever successfully worked? Why would Ron Paul supporters sacrifice their principles like that RIGHT NOW when they never have before? And what do you think the chances of actually changing the Republican Party from the inside are? I'll tell ya: ZERO. POINT. ZERO. Check out today's transcript for more...
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Mike: Richard is in Columbus. You are next. Richard, how are you?
Caller Richard: Absolutely wonderful. I had a quick question and I hope you let me complete my thought before, I think there must be a visceral reaction. When I heard the conversation regarding how the Ron Paul supporters are handling the electoral process, it comes across as a lot of sour grapes. The way I see it is, the Ron Paul supporters are sounding like constitutional Taliban. In their effort to maintain that ideological purity, they’re getting locked out of the system and staring through the window into the process that is happening. I’m trying to say is there a “go along to get along” option in this situation, rather than muddying up the system and sitting outside and complaining, why don’t you participate in the process from the inside rather than maintaining ideological purity in the long run?
Mike: Where’s the purity? They’re arguing for what they actually went inside the process and achieved. What’s wrong with that?
Caller Richard: At a ten percent participation rate or acceptance rate by the general population, in a parliamentarian system, you could become a team maker if you’re a Paul supporter. Right now, it’s limited to a fringe element. I’m saying why don’t you participate in the interior process and change it from the inside out? It’s becoming, to me at least, sounding like a lot of sour grapes.
Mike: They are participating in the process in the interior, from the inside out. What is the caucus? What is a state Republican convention process? Is that not an internal process?
Caller Richard: No, I guess I’m misstating it. When you’re getting steamrolled by the machine --
Mike: Go along with the machine?
Caller Richard: Yes, to get inside. That’s what I’m saying. If you’re getting steamrolled and you’re limited to a ten percent number, you can maintain all the ideological purity you want. You’re still not going to, in the end, have an effect. Change the machine from the inside. You go along to get along to go along.
Mike: You can’t change the machine from the inside unless you are actually going to achieve electoral victories. This would not be a pyrrhic victory because there’s nothing to lose, a motivational victory along the way. Motivational victories are actually winning the Louisiana caucus and other caucuses and then actually sending representatives to the federal convention in Tampa, not causing a ruckus, going along to get along, but voting their conscience if they’re given the chance on the second or third floor vote. Their guy is not going to be nominated. Nobody even thinks that. I don’t understand what is to be gained by just basically, if I’m understanding you correctly, by just basically lying through your teeth and saying, “Rah, rah, GOP!”
Caller Richard: Because it works.
Mike: Who does it work for?
Caller Richard: I know it sounds bad.
Mike: Who has it worked for? Where? When?
Caller Richard: The Romney supporters. The Romney supporters, there’s a huge distaste for the Romney supporters. There’s a bunch of us out here who are feeling that we have to because it literally is the least of the bad choice. The Paul supporters see it the same way is what I’m saying. Sometimes you just have to take your bitter pill to make things go in the direction overall that you want it to be.
Mike: So how do you take -- I’m confused. How do you take the bitter pill? Maybe you’re not explaining it well enough to me.
Caller Richard: Maybe I’m not. That’s what I’m saying. There’s a lot of processes going on where the Ron Paul supporters are making a big name for themselves in terms of -- it’s tough to describe. The Ron Paul supporters are coming across as “Hey, we’re getting locked out. Hey, this is not fair. Hey, you’re not following the rules.” Okay, instead of that tact, try, “Hey, Ron Paul is our guy, but let’s support Mitt Romney, let’s make this happen, let’s improve the process.”
Mike: Improve what process? To say improve the process would the imply that there’s something wrong with it. You just said you should say there’s nothing wrong with it and go along with it.
Caller Richard: Exactly. What I’m saying is sometimes you have to.
Mike: What could possibly go wrong with this plan? There’s nothing to see here, move along. There’s no problem. Everybody’s happy. Just one, big, giant, happy tent.
Caller Richard: Absolutely. The Democrats are feeding us our lunch right now.
Mike: There’s another problem here, Richard. That is what I view as a battle that is a battle without distinction, this Democrat vs. Republican and Republican vs. Democrat. From the federal edifice anyway, you have very little evidence that there is, as said in the 1960’s, that there’s dime’s worth of difference between the two federal parties. That is the problem. If you’re actually a Ron Paul delegate or supporter and you actually get involved in the internal workings of the party, I would think it would be your duty to speak out when you’re being disenfranchised. Or let’s not even use the word disenfranchised, when you signed up for something that the party said would happen if you did this, then when you go and do that, they say, [mocking] “Yeah, but we didn’t actually think you’d accomplish it, so we’re not going to honor that.” That’s no way to do business, come on. Richard, thanks for the entertainment. I appreciate it.
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