Mandeville, LA - Exclusive Transcript - I guarantee you that the Dream Act is going to come up tonight, the southern border with Arizona, Obama’s lawsuits against the people of Arizona. There’s a great opportunity for Governor Romney to be a 10th Amendment guy tonight, by saying, “If you elect me, I will tell the attorney general to withdraw all federal lawsuits filed against Alabama and Arizona. Those sovereign states are free to admit people into their midst that they choose, not us.” He may actually believe that one, too. That may be a big winner for him tonight, or tomorrow night. Check out the rest in today's transcript...
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Mike: The Republicans are on the horns of a dilemma that they have helped to create. To solidify their base, they have to call for restrictions on immigration. This is going to come up tonight, by the way. This will probably be the most talked-about part of tonight’s debate, the various stances on immigration, which no one seems to be talking about. I guarantee you that the Dream Act is going to come up tonight, the southern border with Arizona, Obama’s lawsuits against the people of Arizona. There’s a great opportunity for Governor Romney to be a 10th Amendment guy tonight, by saying, [mocking] “If you elect me, I will tell the attorney general to withdraw all federal lawsuits filed against Alabama and Arizona. Those sovereign states are free to admit people into their midst that they choose, not us.” He may actually believe that one, too. That may be a big winner for him tonight, or tomorrow night.
AG: I think it’ll be interesting to hear what he has to say. There was a story that came out yesterday saying if Congress passed the Dream Act and granted legal status to eligible undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, it could add an additional $329 billion to the U.S. economy and 1.4 million more jobs by 2030. Do you think that changes or shapes the conversation going on with the Dream Act?
Mike: Where would you get such statistics?
AG: Washington Post.
Mike: I know, but where would they get those from? That’s just one of those poly sci calculations that they make up like for every dollar you spend on welfare or unemployment, you get $1.75 back. It’s the multiplier effect. I don’t know about how much it adds to the economy. I do know that anyone who thinks we don’t have enough people in our midst already to compete with anyone on the planet, you need to buy new calculators. It would seem to me that with the tension that exists between those that are here illegally and those that are legal, between those that are legal that are forced and compelled to fund the activities of those that are illegal, that we ought to deal with the illegals that we already have in as judicious a manner as you can, which is what the State of Arizona has done and what the State of Alabama has done and what hopefully Louisiana will do in our legislative session upcoming. It is up to the states to decide these matters. What’s going to happen here ultimately is that much of these illegals are going to wind up in the few “sanctuary” states. Those sanctuary states, by virtue of their open arms, they’re the ones that are going to have to pay for all this. I don’t know about that.
AG: This is like the conversation we had a couple months back. We were talking about with these sanctuary cities or sanctuary states, does it end up costing everyone else because of the federal programs ultimately giving block grants or specific money to these sanctuary cities and states to inevitably take care of what would be deemed elsewhere illegal, undocumented workers?
Mike: Let’s ask the question differently. Would those that are currently receiving gubbmint money, gubbmint largesse because they are illegals and they’re finding ways to get into and participate in the “safety net system,” or whatever it is that you want to call it, would they, upon acquiring citizenship or amnesty, stop their participation in said programs? I think not. What would be their incentive? They’ve already gotten to citizenship now. What would be the incentive? If they’re already predisposed to being teat-sucklers and existing off the productivity of others, what would change that if you give them then the holy grail of citizenship?
AG: To play devil’s advocate, would the argument be that they would then feel more open to participating in the economy as well as contributing in the tax brackets in ways they are not currently?
Mike: I don’t know. I can’t answer that question. It seems to me, though, human nature being what it is, that if you have come from a socialist dictator country that has these vast, albeit impoverished, safety nets and attitudes towards what government ought to do for people, then you get here and go, “Man, not only did they do it for people, but they do it up. It’s first class here. Hallelujah!” You would be predisposed to continuing the practice. If you make them legal, then they’re really going to be a drain on the rest of us.
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