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Virginia Seceded in May 1776

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Audio and Transcript – The Virginians met in convention in late April all the way through May 1776.  On the 15th of May, 1776, the State of Virginia unanimously declared, in convention assembled, their right to self-government.  They officially severed the political bands which had connected them to Great Britain.  They settled this by statute.  In other words, they seceded.  Not only did they secede, they became the first people in the history of the planet, not just this country but the planet, the known universe, the first people ever to form their own government and write their own constitution.  It had never been done before.  The Virginians were the first. Check out the rest in today’s audio and transcript…

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Begin Mike Church Show Transcript

Mike:  Make the break, make the break.  Learn to use the words nullification, interposition, separation.  Learn to use them and threaten them with it.  They’re always menacing and threatening us.  That was not the purpose of forming a general government back in the 1780’s.  Why should people in the states continue to take the threat lightly?  You should react with the exact same thing they’re throwing at us.  We’re not going to stay and play in your little club anymore.  You people that say you’re fed up, are you really fed up?  Are you really fed up and ready to do something about it, as in rethinking the American union or rethinking your state’s relationship with other states in the union?  Do you just like to talk a good game?  I stumbled upon this, speaking of rethinking the American union.  This is posted at TownHall.com by Ken Blackwell, Contributing Editor and Senior Research Fellow at the Family Research Council.  Headline: “What Ron Paul Gets Wrong.”

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Congress Ron Paul has just delivered his valedictory address in the House of Representatives. And he has told TV interviewers that the American Revolution was a wonderful example of secession. [Mike: Well, Mr. Blackwell, it was.] He’s a much better OB/GYN, I’m sure, than he is a student of America’s history. He could be cited for political malpractice.

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Mike:  This is another one of these things that keeps coming up.  I keep having to explain to people, usually “conservatives” who have this brain-dead, romantic attachment to the surrender at Appomattox.  That’s where Lee gave his sword famously to Grant and said the war is over.  You settled a military question.  One army was better than the other.  That did not settle, nor should it have settled, the eternal question of whether or not the American people had the right to self-determination, to self-government, that form of which their republican forms of government are going to be based.  Mr. Blackwell is another one of these fake historians that think there was some universal act of love and union that formed this new union on the 4th of July 1776 and that that was not an act of secession.  Like hell it wasn’t.  I’ll go you one better, Mr. Blackwell.  It was a statement that the united colonies could individually secede or separate from Great Britain.  Each one of those colonies independently declared independence, sir.  As a matter of fact, on the 15th of May 1776 — I’m a little tired of people getting this history wrong.  I’m serious, folks, this becomes really, really aggravating, annoying.  Get my movie Road to Independence and this will prove it to you.  Read a history book.  Here’s a good one: read Mercy Otis Warren’s History of the American Revolution from 1803.  Read it.

Here’s what you will find out: the Virginians met in convention in late April all the way through May 1776.  On the 15th of May, 1776, the State of Virginia unanimously declared, in convention assembled, their right to self-government.  They officially severed the political bands which had connected them to Great Britain.  They settled this by statute.  In other words, they seceded.  Not only did they secede, they became the first people in the history of the planet, not just this country but the planet, the known universe, the first people ever to form their own government and write their own constitution.  It had never been done before.  The Virginians were the first.  On the 15th of May 1776, after they declared their independence, they then began debating the Virginia Constitution of 1776.  They debated it, voted on it, wrote it, ratified it, and then guess what they did?  On the 26th of June 1776 — gee, Mike, is that before or after Jefferson’s famous declaration?  As a matter of fact, that was even before the vote on the Declaration of Independence.  Patrick Henry, yes, that Patrick Henry, was elected the first governor of the first free people in the history of the world under that constitution.  Ladies and gentlemen, those are undeniable historical facts.  I didn’t make them up.  That’s the record.  When Ken Blackwell writes this stuff, that there were no acts of secession in 1776, he is incorrect.

End Mike Church Show Transcript

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Dallon

As far as I can discovered, these petitions for seccession have not been presented by a convention so assembled, but by individuals. If Seccesion is to be successful the petitions should be presented to the state legislatures first, for action by an assembled body, which would present the declaration to the US body. Seccesion is not a request. It is a notification if intent and therefore should come from an assembly of men, not by a singular person with some signatures. The process of Seccesion has been corrupted. At least that is my understanding if Seccesion.

Dallon

Many of the people I discuss seccession with are under the false assumption that every state would be on its own to do as it pleases. I have had to explain to them, that they are also free to pull the present constitution out and form an aliance with other states that agree to abide by the currently used constitution. Imagine if 40 states agreed to ratify and join a coallition of stares that honored our current constitution, and abandoned Mordour. Each state does not have to go-it-alone, atleast in the long term.


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