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Change is Coming… Amendments IX and X Reserve Nullification To The People

Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – We could solve much of the federal and national malaise that we currently experience by just returning to original construction or original understanding of what the word sovereignty means.  This is just one of the greatest scams ever pulled.  The United States of America is not sovereign.  It can’t be.  I can explain why it can’t be, but it would take me 10, 15 minutes. Only the states are sovereign.  The states elect, voluntarily, to act in concert together using the framework of this thing called the Constitution.  That does not make the entity that sits on the banks of the Potomac River sovereign.

 

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Mike:  When people tell me, [mocking] “Mike, Mike, I don’t see any way out of this.  It’s going to end horribly.  Right now there aren’t enough people out there that want to form new republics and go their own way and want to sever the political bands that have connected them with another” and what have you, and I say that’s today.  There is a story that I tell often here on this show.  In January of 1776, when John Adams arrived back at the Second Continental Congress, he wrote a letter to his wife Abigail and told her that the situation seemed to be hopeless to him, that there was no way we were going to get a Declaration of Independence, which he thought was indispensable, because the Congress and the people were made up of one-third timid, one-third Tory and only one-third true blue.  Yet in a space of seven months, things changed; they turned.

So I don’t by that this is impossible or nullification is impossible or interposition is impossible.  According to Salon magazine, a listener just sent me this — Jules, thank you.  Keep your chin up out there, buddy.  You’re not going to quit.  We’re positive on this program.  Glass is half full.  We’re going to get out of this.  There’s a light at the end of the tunnel, and it’s [r]epublicanism.  That’s the light.  Liberty is the way out of this.  As long as we have a shot of regaining lost liberties, then we’re not dead in the water.

Salon magazine, “Arizona secession-lite plan: A ballot measure in Arizona would allow citizens or the state government to opt out of federal laws.”  Good.  Arizona ought to just get it over with and say, [mocking] “Screw that.  We’re going all in.  We’re done.  We’re out.”  Some might say, “Mike, they’re landlocked.  What would they do?”  It’s impossible to totally predict the future, but this would lead to a regional and sectional constitutional crisis.  You have similar situations that are happening in Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi and other states.  Although they’re maybe not as far along as Arizona is, they are most assuredly on the path that Arizona was on maybe four years ago. It’s just the fact that Arizona did have leaders that said: we are a sovereign state.  We have a problem here with illegals overrunning our social services and our social networks and public works.  We’re going to have to do something about it.  So they collectively acted to do something about it.  Of course now they’ve been dragged through federal courts and told that they can’t.

I would be very surprised if after all that Arizona has gone through, if Arizonans accept the ruling of the Roberts Court, that they’re not a sovereign state, that they can’t implement their own laws, and that they can’t be the determiners of whether or not an illegal can stay there, and whether or not they may arrest, detain or deport that illegal to their original point of origin or to a facility that will do the same thing.  I think you have similar situations here.  Here’s what you ought to be hopeful about, and that’s that the small business guy has not given up yet.  The small businessman has not thrown the towel in.  He refuses to take — even though his very existence means that he has a target on his back and that they’re coming to get you.  You hang in there.  Here’s the story from Salon.com about “Arizona’s secession-lite plan.”

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If Jack Biltis has his way, Arizonans may soon get to pick and choose which U.S. laws they don’t want to abide by, like a buffet of federalism.  Biltis submitted over 320,000 signatures last night to place on the November ballot a referendum that would allow Arizonans “to reject any federal action that they determine violates the United States Constitution.”

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Mike:  Well, Mr. Biltis, I’m on your side.  Let me read something to you, Amendment IX of the U.S. Constitution.  I quote, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”  It doesn’t say the states; it says the people.  There’s a movement out there on Facebook to nullify ObamaCare individually.  If 40 million people decide “Screw you, I’m not paying your tax and I’m not paying your fine,” they’re going to lock us all up?  Amendment X, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”  This is a John Taylor of Caroline argument here.  It is the people that are sovereign and make a sovereign state.

We could solve much of the federal and national malaise that we currently experience by just returning to original construction or original understanding of what the word sovereignty means.  This is just one of the greatest scams ever pulled.  The United States of America is not a sovereign.  It can’t be.  I can explain why it can’t be, but it would take me 10, 15 minutes.  It can’t be.  Only the states are sovereign.  The states elect, voluntarily, to act in concert together using the framework of this thing called the Constitution.  That does not make the entity that sits on the banks of the Potomac River sovereign.  It can’t be.

How many of you listened to What Lincoln Killed?  Maybe you heard my Highlander quip.  When I was quoting Taylor of Caroline and explaining this in the docudrama, which you should all have on your wish list, that “There can be only one.”  Well, there can be only one.  This thing is called dual sovereignty.  Dual sovereignty is where you get in trouble.

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  • “Amendment IX of the U.S. Constitution. I quote, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” It doesn’t say the states; it says the people. There’s a movement out there on Facebook to nullify ObamaCare individually. If 40 million people decide “Screw you, I’m not paying your tax and I’m not paying your fine,” they’re going to lock us all up?”–It doesn’t say that individual nullification is one of the rights retained by the people. It just says that they might have missed some.

    As for nullification’s legality in general, Article VI states that “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby” Federal laws trump state laws, and the power to declare laws unconstitutional rests with the Supreme Court, as set up in Article III.

    I’m against Obamacare, but nullification does not seem to be the way to do this.

    • The supremacy clause only applies “in pursuance thereof” meaning when Congress has legislated using an enumerated power. Anyone who has read the VA or KY Resolutions knows this and I hold that James MAdison and John Taylor’s view is superior in intent and direct familiarity to the Constitution and its ratified intent than John Roberts and Elana Kagan. A copy of “What lincoln Killed” of Kevin Gutzman’s “James Madison & The Making of America” will cure you of your romantic attachement to “precedent” which is what you have cited here.

    • Myself,
      When the Supreme Court rules outside the boundaries of the Constitution, as with interment of individuals based on race, then what? What other recourse do the people have against a tyrannical Government who has no care of our limits we place on them? Vote them out? How has that been working for 150 years? What happens when the General Government no longer decides the people are capable of voting, and is backed by the Supreme Court, under “General Welfare”?

  • As soon as SCOTUS ruled the healthcare joke as constitutional law, I immediately thought of nullification and wrote a blog on Tea Party Nation. It seems to me that it is the only solution. I hope all states take this approach. It’s the only way to stop Liviathan or we’re finished as the greatest country this Earth has ever known.

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