Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – When the Constitution was ratified, the guy who actually wrote the “We the people” script and actually wrote the four original parchment paper pages that hold the original text of the original Constitution, Gouverneur Morris, he went to his grave convinced that his grandchildren would not live in an American Union consecrated under a Constitution. It is nothing short of an absolute miracle or maybe a curse, depending on whose side you’re on, that we still remain together as 48 lower contiguous American states. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…
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Mike: Chris in Missouri, how are you?
Caller Chris: Good morning, Mike. I’m a longtime listener, first-time caller. I’m 23, an over-the-road driver. Back when I was in school about seven years ago, they didn’t teach us much about the U.S. Constitution like they should have. They pushed us through that part of the course real quick. My main question is, with the way this country is going now, what do you think is going to happen with our Second Amendment rights?
Mike: I don’t think anything is going to happen to them. I think they’re pretty secure. I think the states like Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana and many other states, Wyoming, are enacting measures to instruct the federal government that this is business they need to stay out of. Don’t believe that this is one of these instances here either where a nullification effort or an effort to actually stand up for state sovereignty is just going to be steamrolled by some silly federal court judge’s edict. I think this is one of the ones where there is enough emotion, passion and pure bodies and votes behind it that it just doesn’t have the public support that its proponents, talking about the gun grabs and stupid background check enhancements and all that silliness, it doesn’t have the support that its proponents think it does.
I think they’re going to be dealt a mighty blow on this one. Will they claim some incremental victories? I’m sure, but I don’t see that the Second Amendment, which protects your state’s right as a sovereign state to regulate firearms as they see fit, if they see fit, I don’t believe the Second Amendment is going to be eviscerated the way some people whose livelihoods are at stake in making that case think it’s going to. I think you can rest assured you’re going to be okay. That gun you have is going to be — you will be using it, not in every state, and you will be able to have it and own it and rely upon it for your own self-defense as you see fit. I just don’t agree that the end is near.
Do you know how long people have been predicting the end is near? I was looking for the source of this the other day and I found it. I was reading a letter that John Adams wrote to Joseph Warren. This was in 1808 or somewhere around then. He was writing about how he thought that the end was near. John Adams believed that our licentiousness and people’s ignorance at the time of the Constitution and the constitutions of the states was going to lead us to a monarchy or a dictatorship or something of that sort, or to anarchy, even worse. This is Adams.
The only reason I bring that up is that we seem to be of the opinion that we’re the first generation of Americans that has ever fretted over their liberties and that no one that’s ever gone before us has ever fretted over them since 1776, that everything has been hunky-dory and fine. There haven’t been these assaults. There weren’t Obamas. Yeah, there weren’t Obamas but there were Lincolns. There weren’t Obamas but there were Woodrow Wilsons. There weren’t Obamas but there were Franklin Delanobama Roosevelts. There weren’t Obamas but there were Lyndon Baines Johnsons. There weren’t Obamas but there were Nixons. There weren’t Obamas but there were Carters, Bushes, Clintons. This goes way back in the history.
All of the predictions, I think, of imminent doom — is there going to be a financial and economic correction in our near future? Uh, yeah. See first hour of this show on your Sirius XM On Demand service. If you missed the first hour, get it. Short of that, I think that the dystopian and bleak future that so many people see and are just convinced are right around the corner — it’s the old saying glass half full, glass half empty. I still am a firm believer that the American Union is going to be rethought. The Constitution and one government for 309 million people is just a fantasy that can’t endure. It can’t and it won’t. What will be its replacement? What will fill in the gaps? Will there be smaller confederations? Will there just be voluntary federations that in some instances must meet in one continent-wide federation to decide or deliberate on questions that might affect an entire continent? That’s a possibility.
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From where we sit, those of us that think a rethinking of the American Union is long overdue, I don’t have any preconceived notion as to how it’s going to look. I’m just anxious and looking forward to the debate and talking about it and discussing it, maybe being animated that: There could be a really bright future right around the corner. It’s not all doom and gloom. I would suspect that at the time of Patrick Henry’s speech in the Virginia House of Burgesses against the Stamp Act, if you could have interviewed Patrick Henry on Fox News at that time, he probably would have said something to the effect that he was just one man against a ginormous empire and he just wanted to make the point that some people were overlooking.
We tend to look back on history, [mocking] “Henry said this on that day and he . . ..” History is kind to some people like that and it’s not kind to others like that. I don’t think that Henry was convinced that what ultimately happened was going to happen. I certainly know that Jefferson wasn’t convinced. I can tell you that Washington was the most pessimistic of all. He never stopped believing, but he was certainly a pessimist when it came to all these things. When the Constitution was ratified, the guy who actually wrote the “We the people” script and actually wrote the four original parchment paper pages that hold the original text of the original Constitution, Gouverneur Morris, he went to his grave convinced that his grandchildren would not live in an American Union consecrated under a Constitution. It is nothing short of an absolute miracle or maybe a curse, depending on whose side you’re on, that we still remain together as 48 lower contiguous American states.
I think that there are enough people that are for the first time moving beyond the mythology of American history and are actually learning real source material-based American history, which takes the gloss and gleam and romanticism off of it. You can look at then and now and compare yourself and go: How do we know the things we’re doing today are not setting events in motion that have a salutary effect similar to the effect that Mr. Henry, Mr. Jefferson, Mr. Washington and Mr. Adams’ animadverting on similar matters had?
Those of you that cling to the idea that Viggo Mortensen’s movie The Road is our future, I always beg to differ with you. It’s one of these other things where when you have your life, when there is something higher than you that you submit yourself and subject yourself to as nothing but a humble servant in his grand scheme, then this will help you sleep just a little better at night as you consider all these things.
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