Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “I would like to know, Mr. Kapenga, where has the concept of nullification been stated as unconstitutional other than out of the mouths of those that also say that it’s unconstitutional for states to secede and exercise their sovereignty. Where is it written? Don’t you hold Mr. Jefferson as an authority on most matters of legality when it applies to the federal union? What about Mr. Madison? What about James Monroe?” Check out today’s transcript for the rest…
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Mike: Headline, “Wisconsin GOP rejects resolution on secession.” Why?
The measure, which included language calling on the Legislature to nullify specific federal laws and regulations, was easily voted down.
Earlier, delegates used an amendment to strip out a portion of the resolution that called for the right, under extreme circumstances, to secede.
Mike: You don’t have to have a resolution saying you have the right to secede; you do. You know what’s amazing about what’s going on here in Wisconsin and with the Wisconsin GOP saying, [mocking] “Nullification is illegal. Secession is illegal. We only have our magisterial central government power. Congress is absolute and everlasting”? The only thing that is enduring is the national legislature. The states are not enduring, in other words. If you’re not going to claim your sovereignty, you’re not going to endure. How could you? This is the same state…
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Mike: Yes, minions. I concur. Thanks for the phone call. Just to recap if you’re wondering, [mocking] “What is he jawboning about?” The Wisconsin GOP had their yearly convention. There was a measure to include in the state’s party platform that the state had the right to secede, and that it was a sovereign entity and therefore had the right to have an equal say so in what is and what is not unconstitutional as you live and operate under the U.S. Constitution. Folks, this is how a compact works. It is not a one-way street with a centralized, monstrous, egomaniacal power saying: No, no, we get to tell you everything because we’re us and you’re not.
For the Wisconsin GOP to deny, by recorded voice vote, that the state is not sovereign — here’s the two dopamines in here. Where does it say in the Constitution that states are sovereign? Unless I missed it, it doesn’t. You know why? Because everybody knows that. Every state that joined in 1789, ’90 and ’91 with Rhode Island being the last, they all knew — look at it this way. If the states weren’t sovereign, how could North Carolina abstain and say: Nope, not ratifying, not gonna do it? On the second convention they ratified but in the first they said no. If they weren’t sovereign, why didn’t Congress just send an army down to North Carolina and start arresting people saying, [mocking] “No, you’re joining the union, man. You gotta join. You don’t have any power”? Ditto the same question for Rhode Island.
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