Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “I have a headline here that some of you were shocked by. I don’t know why Southerners are shocked by it. I guess there is the opinion out there that institutions that receive large portions of public moneys in order to continue their existence, that they somehow are not ultimately going to cave into the wishes of those that are able to push the levers of power inside the government, namely the case of Washington and Lee University announcing yesterday that they’re going to remove all Confederate battle flags and all Confederate flag symbols from the chapel that is in the name and in the honor of the honorable Robert E. Lee.” Check out today’s Clip of The Day and transcript for the rest…
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Mike: I have a headline here that some of you were shocked by. I don’t know why you are shocked by it. I guess there is the opinion out there that institutions that receive large portions of public moneys in order to continue their existence, that they somehow are not ultimately going to cave into the wishes of those that are able to push the levers of power inside the government, namely the case of Washington and Lee University announcing yesterday that they’re going to remove all Confederate battle flags and all Confederate flag symbols from the chapel that is in the name and in the honor of the honorable Robert E. Lee. “Washington and Lee University to remove Confederate flags following protest.”
Now, I covered this story about six weeks ago. You’ll recall at the time that to get into Washington and Lee University, you have to – here we go. We’re back with oaths again. You have to take an oath. [private FP-Monthly|FP-Yearly|FP-Yearly-WLK|FP-Yearly-So76]
There’s a pledge you have to take of sorts. The students that entered Washington and Lee University, they knew that chapel was there. They also knew those flags were in there, yet they pledged to honor the traditions, customs, and bylaws of the University of Washington and Lee but they didn’t do it. So what is their reward for violating their oath and their vow and their pledge? It is to give them their way. What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?
I said this before and I think some of you may have thought I said it in gest. As we’re now in the third decade of rewriting the history of the peoples of the Southern United States, and now in the third decade of deprecating and defecating on anything that could be remotely construed as Southern, why don’t you Yankees just get it over with? Just tell us where you want to detonate the nuclear bomb to wipe out the South and we’ll all move close enough so you can get us all with one bomb and you Northerners can have your paradise. You Yankees can finally have your paradise free from the pestilence and pests of Southerners that refuse to abandon hundreds of years’ worth of tradition, hundreds of years’ worth of history. Why don’t you just annihilate us?
If the personal and private deeds of every member of the founding generation or even of every member of the civil rights era were known, there wouldn’t be any history that would survive, none. We’d always find an excuse or someone would be able to find an excuse. [mocking] “I found out that that guy did this!” — “He did?” — “That’s right, he did. He shouldn’t be in the history books. This is an outrage!”
I got a better idea. Why don’t you just draw a line? Across this line you do not cross. Tell us where you don’t want us to travel and where it is that you draw the line. You wouldn’t want any of us hick, hayseed, racist bigots down here that cling to slavery and what have you — this is the implication. [mocking] “If you have a monument to Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson, you’re a slave owner.” Really? Would you like to come to my house and show me my slave quarters. They’re probably where I sleep, you know, the guy that cuts the grass, the guy that does all the work around the house. These insinuations are just ridiculous and offensive at the same time. So why don’t we just get it over with? It’s a source of never-ending consternation. Folks, these people will not be happy until the stain of the Southern United States is eradicated from existence. But we’re the greatest, freest country in the history of the world. Yeah? Try preserving a part of your heritage that someone doesn’t like. Go ahead and try it.
Washington and Lee University expressed regret Tuesday for the school’s past ownership of slaves and promised to remove Confederate flags from the main chamber of its Lee Chapel after a group of black students protested that the historic Virginia school was unwelcoming to minorities. [Mike: If it’s unwelcoming to minorities, then how did the minorities get into the school to start with, may I ask?]
President Kenneth P. Ruscio’s announcement was a surprising move for the small, private liberal arts college in Lexington, which has long celebrated its Southern heritage. Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee served as the university’s president after the Civil War, his crypt is beneath the chapel . . .
Mike: Well, you’re going to have to move Lee now, too, aren’t you? The very fact that Robert E. Lee, the commander in chief of the Confederate forces is buried at the university says that this is one of the most unwelcoming places to minorities in the history of the world, doesn’t it? You’re going to have to exhume the body and move him. You know, if I’m going to get involved in this protest, baby, then I’m going all the way. Not only do I want those flags taken down, I want Lee exhumed, I want him moved — scratch that, not moved, I want him burned. You know what, it wouldn’t be good enough to just burn him. Let’s perpetually burn him. We’ll take some Title IX funding, we’ll make a giant torch in the middle of the university, and we’ll just perpetually burn an effigy of Robert E. Lee. How about that? Are you happy now? Look, there’s Robert E. Lee who continues to burn. Maybe we’ll even hire an actor to scream and pretend like he’s in great pain. How about that? Happy now?
Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee served as the university’s president after the Civil War, his crypt is beneath the chapel and the school has gingerly addressed its ties to the Confederacy and its having profited from the possession and sale of slaves.
Mike: By the way, there is historical evidence that says that Massachutens also benefitted from the possession and sale of slaves in the Port of Boston. If we’re going to do this and eradicate all vestiges of anyone that ever had anyone to do with slavery, then we need to take Jefferson off the nickel. We need to take Washington off the money. You’ve got to eradicate all of these Virginians because they were all slave owners, every single one of them. Let’s just start over, shall we? As a matter of fact, we’ll just say that history actually began when Clinton took the oath of office.
We’ll have Clinton on the $20 bill. We’ll have Hillary on the $100. Well, I think we can still have Franklin because Franklin was always an opponent. He was always an abolitionist. He was always an opponent of slavery, so Franklin can stay. I don’t think Hamilton had any slaves, so maybe Hamilton can stay on the $10. Grant can stay on the $50. Washington is gone. Jefferson is gone. Lincoln, of course, can stay. We’ll just mint all money — of course, we won’t talk about the country of Liberia and the groups that Abraham Lincoln was a part of that wanted Negro, as it was called then — I’m quoting, by the way — expatriation or relocation to countries other than anywhere inside the United States. This is all part of the historical record.
The Confederate banners — battle flags that Lee’s army flew as it fought Union forces — have adorned the campus chapel that bears Lee’s name since 1930, and university officials said they were a nod to history and not a message intended to offend anyone.
Mike: Well, it doesn’t matter what anyone’s intention is any longer, does it? Motive no longer matters, does it? If you have done something, it doesn’t matter what your motivation is. Those that control the PC mafia out there, they don’t want to hear what your motivation is. They are sure that you are an evil, despicable sinner and they act as God on Earth to help cleanse your soul.
Washington and Lee joins other U.S. colleges in examining its historical ties to slavery.
Mike: Actually you’re now severing your historical ties, Mr. Washington Post report. You are not examining them; they are eradicating them. There can be no historical tie unless there’s a historical tie that is reminiscent of an attachment to what, the Luftwaffe? What’s next?
Founded in 1749, the school that became Washington and Lee was endowed in 1796 with a $20,000 gift from George Washington [Mike: A slave owner.], the nation’s first president. The school was subsequently named Washington College in his honor. After Lee died in 1870, it became Washington and Lee University. The chapel was also renamed to honor Lee.
Ruscio’s announcement came just a few months after a group of black law students, known as “the committee,” wrote to the Board of Trustees urging changes that they said would make minority students feel more welcome. Black students make up about 3.5 percent of the school’s enrollment of 2,277.
Mike: So in order to make a small percentage of the student population giddily happy with their experience that they voluntarily signed up for at the university, we’re going to take the history of the college and we’re going to throw it out the window, just like we jettison all the rest of the history that we find inconvenient these days. Just throw it out the window and replace it with what? What are you going to replace it with? What do you replace this with? This is the tragedy of this. It happened; deal with it. We have to deal with this. Running from it and pretending as though it did not happen or wishing that it did not happen, it’s too late. It did happen. You know what else happened? Christ was crucified under Pontius Pilate. We can’t go back and change that. It is a historical fact, as are many historical facts that many people may wish had never occurred.
If the personal and private deeds of every member of the founding generation or even of every member of the civil rights era were known, there wouldn’t be any history that would survive, none. We’d always find an excuse or someone would be able to find an excuse. [mocking] “I found out that that guy did this!” — “He did?” — “That’s right, he did. He shouldn’t be in the history books. This is an outrage!” I guarantee you, every human being that ever walked the earth, including Christ himself, had a skeleton in their closet. Well, maybe not Christ. He would have been the only one that didn’t.
In interviews, black students said they felt uncomfortable attending school events in the chapel, where the Confederate flags were clearly visible.
Mike: This now opens up the — of course, this is also inclusive of this urban legend that has been created that the entire purpose of the War of Northern Aggression was the continuation of enslavement. Here we are again 160-plus years after the conclusion of the most horrific and bloodiest war that English-speaking peoples had ever seen in all of history. It was the bloodiest. It wasn’t until midway through the war that it was decided: Hey, wait a minute, we can fight on behalf of this slavery question and we’ll be able to sign up a lot more new Irishmen and Northerners. The abolitionists will go for this. It was not the reason why the war was started. We don’t have enough time to go through all this history here.
Ruscio’s announcement has received the support of some alumni. [Mike: It has to receive the support of all alumni now, because if you don’t vocally support it, then that makes you a slave owner, or a wannabe slave owner.] . . . that is helping to develop a well equipped generation of leaders to deal with the social and economic challenges of a rapidly shrinking world.”
Mike: In traveling internationally, I can shed just a little more light perhaps than those who have not traveled internationally, and forgive me if that sounds braggadocios. I don’t mean it to be. I just mean it to say that maybe I’ve been to a place or two that others have not been and I can share some of my experience with you, as humbly as I can. I can tell you that English-speaking peoples that do not live in the United States do not share or do not act upon the news of the day and the self-importance of the news of the day in the same manner that we act upon it. [/private]
There’s nothing that can exist in the 24/7 news cycle, that we are unfortunately, and I think regrettably, immersed in these days, there’s nothing that can exist that does not have at some level an element of controversy to it and an element of, shall we say being possessed of unfinished business. In other words, there’s nothing that has happened in the past that cannot be improved upon, cannot be reordered, cannot be reanalyzed, and cannot then be used to support something that some people desperately wish to support or advocate today.
In other words, our use of history is purely for our present purposes here. It’s not really to make a better world. It’s not to make the world a better place to live, because if we wanted to do that, then we would turn our eyes heavenward. We would turn our attention and more of it heavenward. That’s where you’ll find the answers to making this world, our world, our lives better. But, because we’re arrogant, conceited men, we allow the continuation of this never-ending — it will never end. It will never end until there’s another French Revolution and people are being executed publicly because they refuse to go along or they refuse to be assimilated like the Borg in Star Trek: The Next Generation television series. You think that this is funny and I’m being facetious here. I don’t think it’s funny at all. I don’t think I’m being very facetious at all. As a matter of fact, I’m probably underselling the tightrope, the precipice along which we walk these days.
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