Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Kevin Gutzman – “That’s exactly right. This is the kind of thing that’s supposed to be decided by the Congress. The reason this is an issue is that we actually have statutes against torturing people. People have been saying these last few days: Of course they tortured them. You have to torture them. Look at the bad things they do. Of course, this assumes that everybody being held was actually Al-Qaeda. We know that at least  people who were being held. There were 26 people being held, including one Australian guy who was held for a decade, who had no connection to Al-Qaeda and were just kind of held by accident. Do you want those people to be tortured?”
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Mike: Was Gonzales the AG at the time John Yoo crafted this despicable memo that not only enabled the Authorization for Use of Military Force and gave Bush Article I, Section 8 war-making powers, all of them, and also, I think, enabled the enhanced interrogation program? Your thoughts?
Kevin Gutzman: I think it was still John Ashcroft.
Mike: What about the Yoo memo? Did the Yoo memo lead to the rendition and the enhanced interrogation?
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Guess what, folks? Sometimes if you want the rule of law, it’s going to bite you. It’s not going to bite only the people in the other party. If we’re going to have a rule of law, we have to be willing to be subject to the law. If we control the executive, we have to follow the law even if we don’t like it. Then if we control the legislature, we have to hold the executive accountable. We can’t just say it wouldn’t be politics to defund immigration amnesty. Immigration amnesty is illegal so you can’t be funding it. That’s all there is to it. It’s the same kind of thing.
So what does the Republican Party stand for when it comes to the rule of law? Well, we’re going to torture people if we want to. If we think it might be popular, we’re going to allow immigration amnesty, even though the law says you can’t do this. What difference is there between the Boehner / Jeb Bush wing of the Republican Party on the one hand and the Democratic Party led by Obama on the other hand when it comes to these questions of the rule of law? What difference is there?
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