Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Now to George Carey at The Imaginative Conservative, “Conservatives & Politics: A Look Ahead.” This is an update on an essay that was written in 2005. Professor Carey is one of the most brilliant thinkers and writers out there that still is what I would call a classical conservative, meaning that he knows ultimate causes are always to be pursued whenever you’re trying to identify any problem or any situation or any issue and then try to resolve it, especially if it’s falling into the realm of politics. Check out today’s transcript for the rest….
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Mike: Now to George Carey at The Imaginative Conservative, “Conservatives & Politics: A Look Ahead.” This is an update on an essay that was written in 2005. Professor Carey is one of the most brilliant thinkers and writers out there that still is what I would call a classical conservative, meaning that he knows ultimate causes are always to be pursued whenever you’re trying to identify any problem or any situation or any issue and then try to resolve it, especially if it’s falling into the realm of politics. Most things probably shouldn’t be in the realm of politics, but we’ll have to have a different discussion on that. Carey knows that ultimate causes are always what is at issue. Today, Americans and people in the West fixate on secondary causes.
Here’s an adage that covers this. You treat the symptoms, not the disease. It’s pretty accurate there. This would also all fall under the cover of the theme for today’s show, which comes from the book of Romans Chapter 1:22, “Dicentes enim se esse sapientes stulti facti sunt.” I’ll translate that, “For professing themselves to be wise they became fools.” That’s precisely where we’re at today. It is pride that tells you to profess yourself to be wise. As soon as you profess yourself to be wise, you
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become prideful and you’re not wise; you’re arrogant. Wisdom is self-evident. You don’t go around promoting yourself as a sage. People say that you’re a sage.
The underlying concern in my essay is related to the dominance of the presidency in our system today. Several developments highlighted my concern, but key among them was the fact that Bush II was able, in a very short period of time, to utterly transform the Republican Party. [Mike: It’s not the Republican Party anymore; it’s the War Party. You see this with all the 16 candidates and 15 of them are warmongers, war hawks.] Circa 2000, traditional conservatives were pretty much in step with the party on two crucial issues: fiscal responsibility and a realistic foreign policy that eschewed Wilsonianism, that is, the notion that America bore a special responsibility to make the world “safe for democracy.”
Mike: Now we have to make the world safe for democracy and our favorite nations. I’ll let your fertile mind figure out what our favorite nations are that we have to make the world safe for. [mocking] “They’re our allies, Mike, we got to.” We don’t have to do anything. [mocking] “We got treaties.” Then undo the treaties. I’d say dealing with butchered baby parts right down the street from where I’m currently sitting is more important than that, but that’s just me. Back to Carey:
But, to pick up where I left off in the article, I realized that Bush II’s capacity to bring about such a radical and abrupt change was only a manifestation of the enormous power that has accrued to the presidency. There are, it seems to me, at least two reasons—reasons, for that matter, that would apply to any president of either party who chose to follow the same course—for Bush II’s success. The first I mention in the article, but the point can be made more forcefully and clearly by bringing John C. Calhoun’s thought into play. In his Disquisition, Calhoun points out that the mere existence of government will divide society into two parts: a majority and minority. Why so? Individuals will seek to control government because it dispenses “honors” and “emoluments,” which are, he goes on to remark, far from insubstantial. To fulfill its primary responsibilities, he observes, “large establishments are necessary:” on the military side, “fortifications, fleets, armories, arsenals, magazines, arms of all descriptions, with well-trained forces;” on the civil, “a host of employees, agents, and officers—of whom many must be vested with high and responsible trusts, and occupy exalted stations, accompanied with much influence and patronage.” “The whole united,” he believes, “must necessarily place under the control of government an amount of honors and emoluments, sufficient to excite profoundly the ambition of the aspiring and the cupidity of the avaricious.” Consequently, coalitions will form to vie for control of government, eventually coalescing into a majority and minority, each seeking its piece of the pie.
Mike: I’m going to stop right here because that’s a really, really succinct but brilliant analysis there. Let me unpack that for you. What we have created today in America is a biennial competition for the control of an ever-expanding state, government if you will. That’s what we have created. We have not created republicanism. We’ve not created subsidiarity. We’ve not even created good government that we’re vying for control of. We’ve created a demonic, corrupt, secular superstate that is and exists as its own religion. You basically then have competition for control of authority.
But even if you lose control of authority, you still don’t lose. This is what you people must understand and must come to grips with. Even if you are the minority party, the minority party knows that it will someday become the majority, and the majority party knows it will someday become the minority, thus there is always a quid pro quo. Both sides then agree that the march of the religion of the state will continue and it will continue to grow. Why? Because it’s good for them. It’s good for them. It’s healthy. It produces more jobs, more appointments, more power, more government, more of the religion State, until the point where it grows, where ours has grown to, where it becomes a menace to everyone that’s not in government. Me and most of you are in that number. It’s a menace. It’s a growing, hulking menace.
First it was just content to rape us and rob us of that which we have monetarily earned. That wasn’t good enough. Now it wants to rape us and rob us from that which we supernaturally earn, from our very spirit, from our very faith, from our very religions. What’s after that? Why? Because that’s the next conquest. In order to expand the power, you’re going to have to get down on your knees and you’re going to have to bow to who they tell you to bow you. You’ll can conduct ceremonies in the manner in which we tell you to conduct them in.
Do not believe that this is unprecedented because it’s not. This is history repeating itself. At the time of Henry VIII, followed by Edward VI and then Elizabeth I, the government of England basically dictated how masses would be held until there were no masses that were allowed to be held unless they were held under the auspices of Henry’s new church. Today it survives as the Anglican Church or the Church of England. I say survives. It’s on life support. Nurse, hand me the paddles. I’m going to revive the old girl because she is about to expire. [/private]
Listen to me. In order to try to make his marriages legitimate, Henry VIII had to keep changing the rules. When the Pope told him: Yeah, dude, no. We granted you a dispensation to marry Catherine of Aragon. Most people don’t know this, but Henry’s brother, William, had married Catherine of Aragon and then he died before they were able to consummate. Henry, for those of you who hate the papacy so much and are so overjoyed by what happened under Henry, Edward, and Elizabeth — of course, there was Mary Tudor in there who tried to stop all this, Henry’s only legitimate daughter, by Catherine of Aragon. Henry knew that he was under the authority of the Pope. He asked Rome: Hey, man, I want to marry this Catherine of Aragon. She’s pretty hot. Besides, that’ll make me an ally with the French or part of France. If it could be proven, if under oath Catherine would say: I never had relations with the other brother. Then the marriage was never consummated and you can marry.
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