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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript“We make this out to be that it’s this impossible task and it can’t be done.  They did it for over a thousand years without computers.  They did it without guns.  They did it without calculators.  They did it without food processors.  They did it without refrigeration air conditioning, mechanized transportation, mechanized farming.  Somehow they did it.  Modern man has failed because modern man hasn’t tried.  What does Chesterton say?  Christianity hasn’t been found tried and wanting; Christianity has been found difficult and never tried.” Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

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The idea of the Christian village has recently gained more traction with the defeat of Indiana’s religious liberty law, which is seen as a foretaste of a coming persecution. Writers like Rod Dreher are urging people to make a strategic withdrawal from modern society that would allow Christians to reassess their situation and explore their identity in a liturgy-rich context. It need not be the full village version, but it does entail something of a withdrawal. He calls it the Benedict or “B-option” and proposes that people find their strategic retreat parishes/communities to weather the liberal storm.

It must be said that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the idea of a Christian village centered on family and faith. It is entirely according to our social nature to desire to live in a community committed to virtuous life in common. Such communities help individuals put their lives in order and control their disordered passions. They satisfy the longings of the postmodern heart that crave community and wholeness. Such villages would return God back to the center of things where He belongs. It is where we need to go but …

… There is one major problem with the B-option and that is what might be called the “B-challenge.” Benedictine communities may have flourished, but they also seemed to attract barbarians who ravaged and plundered them …

…Such communities are not enough. Benedict alone does not suffice.

Such a task consists of understanding the nature of the barbarian. Historically, barbarians were those who gave in to their whims and destroyed indiscriminately. They devastated ordered society and redistributed its wealth. They did not leave Christians alone, but rather sought them out, often coming from afar, to loot and plunder their communities wherever they might be found.

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Christopher:  When they killed her?

Mike:  Yeah, the day they killed her.

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Christopher:  She became a martyr.

Mike:  She became a martyr.  She didn’t end Roman tyranny.  She didn’t end the persecution of other martyrs.  Add another 20,000 or so or 100,000, however many there was, and now it always comes to martyrs, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately because they call it the crown of martyrdom.  The point is, should she not have done it?  Should St. Lucy have given in and said: Come on in, I’ll marry the dude.  I’ll marry the creep.  He can have me.  Ravish me.  Should she?  Insert martyr name here.  After the first round of scourging and everything, should St. Sebastian have gone: All right, I give.  You ain’t gotta shoot any arrows at me, man.  Show me where Jupiter is.  I’ll kiss his feet.  I’m done.  Did he change anything that day?

Our view is: What good is that going to do you?  If you’re concerned about holy death and blessed eternity, you don’t worry about what good it’s going to do anyone else tomorrow.  What good is it going to do you?  We are all faced with choices every single day.  We can go along with this sick, twisted, perverted, heretical modern world, or every time we’re confronted with the opportunity to not participate in it, or to explain why participation is not warranted, that’s a chance.  That’s a St. Lucy.  Name your martyr, St. Sebastian, St. Polycarp.  Who was the one that was grilled?  St. Lawrence was skinned alive.  Thousands upon thousands of others.  Our perspective is always: Yeah, well, that’s easy for you to say.  How’s that going to change anything?

When the first Carmelite nun had her head cut off, did that stop the second one?  Did it prevent the second one or the third one or the fourth, all the way through the fourteenth and then the mother superior, number fifteen?  No.  Five days later, though, the great terror of the guillotine and of the Constitution Congress did end as they had vowed to offer their life for its end did.  You see, we’re Westerners.  We’re Americans.  We’re used to the convenience of the modern world.  We’re not used to looking at things from having a viewpoint of 20,000 feet instead of two.

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