Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “I want to read something to you. Washington Times, ‘Nancy Pelosi pulls rank, pressures Catholic archbishop to skip traditional marriage march.’ That’s funny, you don’t agree that a person is a child of God if they’re six months gestated in a woman’s womb and they’re in need of a late-term abortion. As a matter of fact, this bwana crazy woman actually went on Meet the Press and dared to quote my patron saint, Augustine, saying Augustine knew this and Augustine was okay with it. I don’t know what Augustine you have read that would make you or anyone on earth ever think that St. Augustine would have been okay with this.” Check out today’s Clip of The Day and transcript for the rest…
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Mike: I want to read something to you. Washington Times, “Nancy Pelosi pulls rank, pressures Catholic archbishop to skip traditional marriage march.” Again, that woman is crazy.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent a letter to San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, urging him to cancel his appearance at a march for traditional marriage on the Supreme Court this Thursday.
“We share our love of the Catholic faith and our city of San Francisco,” Mrs. Pelosi reportedly wrote to Mr. Cordileone, urging him to abandon an event in which some of the participants, she said, show “disdain and hate towards LGBT persons.”
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“If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?” she asked. “While we may disagree on the subject of marriage equality, we do agree that every person is a child of God, possessed of the spark of divinity and worthy of respect.”
Mike: That’s funny, you don’t agree that a person is a child of God if they’re six months gestated in a woman’s womb and they’re in need of a late-term abortion. As a matter of fact, this bwana crazy woman actually went on Meet the Press and dared to quote my patron saint, Augustine, saying Augustine knew this and Augustine was okay with it. I don’t know what Augustine you have read that would make you or anyone on earth ever think that St. Augustine would have been okay with this.
The second annual March for Marriage seeks to draw thousands to the Supreme Court in support of “traditional marriage.” Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum are also slated to speak, The Chronicle reported.
Mike: I have in my hands the archbishop’s response to Ms. Pelosi and about 50 others who are angry at him.
Dear Fellow Citizens:
Your letter sharing with me your thoughts on the upcoming “March for Marriage” in Washington, D.C., was forwarded to me while I was attending meetings out of town, and I have reflected on what you have to say. I appreciate your affirmation of my Church’s teaching—not unique to our religion, but a truth accessible to anyone of good will—on the intrinsic human dignity of all people, irrespective of their stage and condition in life. That principle requires us to respect and protect each and every member of the human family, from the precious child in the womb to the frail elderly person nearing death. It also requires me, as a bishop, to proclaim the truth—the whole truth—about the human person and God’s will for our flourishing. I must do that in season and out of season, even when truths that it is my duty to uphold and teach are unpopular, including especially the truth about marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife. That is what I will be doing on June 19th.
With regard to your request that I not attend the March, and the reasons you give for this request, allow me to explain the following points.
1. The March for Marriage is not “anti-LGBT” (as some have described it); it is not anti-anyone or anti-anything. Rather, it is a pro-marriage March. The latter does not imply the former. Rather, it affirms the great good of bringing the two halves of humanity together so that a man and a woman may bond with each other and with any children who come from their union. This is precisely the vision promoted by Pope Francis, who recently said, “We must reaffirm the right of children to grow up in a family with a father and mother.” Rest assured that if the point of this event were to single out a group of individuals and target them for hatred, I most certainly would not be there.
2. While I cannot go into all of the details here of your allegations against the sponsors of this event and scheduled speakers, I do know that at least some of what you say is based on misinterpretation or is simply factually incorrect. For example, it is not true that the National Organization for Marriage connects homosexuality with pedophilia and incest. What is true is that three years ago a conference was sponsored in Baltimore by the group B4U-ACT for the purpose of finding ways to encourage tolerance for pedophilia. A statement on NOM’s blogpost objecting to this conference affirmed that this is something that would outrage people in the gay community as well. Unfortunately, many conclusions are being drawn about those involved in the March for Marriage based on false impressions.
3. It gives me assurance that we share a common disdain for harsh and hateful rhetoric. It must be pointed out, though, that there is plenty of offensive rhetoric which flows in the opposite direction. In fact, for those who support the conjugal understanding of marriage, the attacks have not stopped at rhetoric. Simply for taking a stand for marriage as it has been understood in every human society for millennia, people have lost their jobs, lost their livelihoods, and have suffered other types of retribution, including physical violence. It is true that historically in our society violence has been perpetrated against persons who experience attraction to members of the same sex, and this is to be deplored and eradicated. Sadly, though, we are now beginning to see examples, although thankfully not widespread, of even physical violence against those who hold to the conjugal view of marriage…
4. Please do not make judgments based on stereotypes, media images and comments taken out of context. Rather, get to know us first as fellow human beings… I myself am willing to meet personally with any of you not only to dialogue, but simply so that we can get to know each other. It is the personal encounter that changes the vision of the other and softens the heart. In the end, love is the answer, and this can happen even between people with such deep disagreements. That may sound fanciful and far-fetched, but it is true, it is possible. I know it is possible, I know this from personal experience. When we come together seeking to understand the other with good will, miracles can happen.
When all is said and done, then, there is only one thing that I would ask of you more than anything else: before you judge us, get to know us.
Most Reverend Salvatore Cordileone
Archbishop of San Francisco
Mike: I do not know the personality of said archbishop. I don’t know much about the diocese. Don’t know much about him personally and have never attended one of his sermons or masses while I lived in Daly City, California, which is in the outskirts of San Francisco. I would say that he was very gracious and humble in his response, all the while standing his ground and saying: I am not abandoning eons of church teaching. And it’s not hateful. It’s anything but. It’s based on a love for seeing more of the human family find their place and then hopefully their relationship with their God here on this planet. What’s your excuse? Let’s go back to Mr. Reed’s wonderful essay here, “Are We Rome?” He’s trying to rally his fellow citizens to the idea that if we don’t stop this slide into our own self-inflicted character abuse, we’re going to suffer the exact same fate as the Roman Empire did.
Roman society at the time of the Republic’s founding was basically agricultural, made up of small farmers and shepherds. By the second century B.C., large-scale businesses made their appearance. Italy became urbanized. Immigration accelerated as people from many lands were attracted by the vibrant growth and opportunities the bustling Roman economy offered. The growing prosperity was made possible by a general climate of free enterprise, limited government and respect for private property. Merchants and businessmen were admired and emulated.
No one should claim that Romans fostered a libertarian society. They took liberty to new heights in many ways by limiting the power of the State, but shortcomings were plentiful. This much is clear: The liberties they achieved were made possible and sustained for centuries by traits of character on which liberty always depends: courage, hard work, personal independence, and self-reliance.
Rome’s remarkable achievements in sanitation, education, banking, architecture, and commerce are legendary. The city even had a stock market. With low taxes and tariffs, free trade and considerable private property, Rome became the center of the world’s wealth. All this disappeared, however, by the fifth century A.D.; when it was gone, the world was plunged into darkness and despair, slavery and poverty.
Why did Rome decline and fall? Rome collapsed because of a fundamental change in ideas on the part of the Roman people—ideas which relate primarily to personal responsibility and the source of personal income. In the early days of greatness, Romans regarded themselves as their chief source of income. By that I mean each individual looked to himself—what he could acquire voluntarily in the marketplace—as the source of his livelihood. Rome’s decline began when the people discovered another source of income: the political process—the State. In short, it was a character issue.
When Romans abandoned self-responsibility and self-reliance, and began to vote themselves benefits, to use government to rob Peter and pay Paul, to put their hands into other people’s pockets, to envy and covet the productive and their wealth, they turned down a fateful, destructive path.
Mike: You know, Dr. Reed, it also didn’t help that they crucified Simon Peter upside down outside the gates of the city or they chopped off the head of St. Paul or that Herod served up the head of John the Baptist because his daughter demanded it. There’s more about this, but his point is that the decline that Rome experienced was a decline of character. We had a character once upon a time on this continent and are witnessing the final stages of the decline of that character. Tens of thousands of people standing in streets cheering and screaming loudly as if they were celebrating the birth of our Lord because the mayor uttered an expletive out in front of those tens of thousands, including children, tender ears, is just one of today’s signs of that decay. Folks, this stuff is undeniable. [/private]
Like we were talking about earlier with the Lois Lerner emails, you can bitch and complain all you want about the fact that Ms. Lerner is getting away with this. But consider for just a moment that there are hundreds if not thousands of recipients of said emails. Where’s their virtue? Why aren’t they calling Boehner up? Why aren’t they calling the Washington Post up and saying: I don’t know if you’re looking for these, but I’ve got a couple hundred that were twixt she and me. I feel duty bound to hand them over. At every level and at every opportunity, it seems, when Americans are confronted with the opportunity to show a little virtue and a little bit of humility, instead we reach for the vulgar or we reach for the obscene. Why? Because it sells. We’ve been taught that the vulgar and obscene is the way.
I heard a Roman Catholic priest say something once upon a time that I’m just going to share with you, like it or not. Yes, I am not perfect. I break this rule myself way too often, but I’m trying to break myself of the habit. Imagine that you are in company with Mary, the mother of our Lord, and the Mayor of Los Angeles took to that dais. Do you think he would have said what he said if Mary were in his presence, the Blessed Virgin? Do you think he would have said that? Regardless of whether he was Catholic or not, if she was there, shining, glowing, veiled, would he have said that? Would you have said that? Here’s a news flash: she’s always there.
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