Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – All this protestation and all this hooting and hollering and all this stuff that’s going on, in all the fundraising that’s going on with Tea Party groups sending their little letters out asking, [mocking] “You must support us now in this our darkest hour of need. We’ve got to get rid of Obama.” At the end of the day, none of this will result in a leaner, less meaner federal leviathan. That’s what you ought to care about. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…
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Mike: Sam is in Maryland. Yes, Sam, you’re next on The Mike Church Show. How you doing?
Caller Sam: Good morning, Mike, how are you?
Mike: I’m well, sir, thank you.
Caller Sam: Just a quick comment. I’m a loyal listener, been listening to you now about two years.
Mike: Thank you.
Caller Sam: The purpose of my call was I guess to comment on what I’ve observed on the various Fox spots with regard to interviews with Republican congressional players, specifically the lack of what I would consider to be true, directed, accurately portrayed outrage at the IRS, the outpouring over the IRS issues. I apologize if you’ve already addressed this in an earlier conversation. What bothers me is, what I see is kind of like this dancing around by these guys. Last night, I don’t know the name of the guy, but he was talking about: The IRS needs to treat people fairly. What’s not being said is take advantage of this crisis. This is a $3.8 trillion budget that’s out of control. People need to get focused on the fact that the IRS is in fact the strongman to go out and grab the money. It’s more a matter of taxpayers need to be treated fairly.
Mike Church Show Transcript: IRS Scandal Continues To Be About Party Politics Instead Of Tyrannical Powers
Mike: That is a really, really salient and well put point. All the IRS is doing is what Congress tells it to do. They may not tell them to eavesdrop and make life miserable for conservative Tea Party groups, but they certainly tell them: Hey, get out there and collect our money. I did make that point earlier, but I must say not in such brilliant terms, Sam. You got me on this one. I did make the point another way. All this protestation and all this hooting and hollering and all this stuff that’s going on, in all the fundraising that’s going on with Tea Party groups sending their little letters out asking, [mocking] “You must support us now in this our darkest hour of need. We’ve got to get rid of Obama.” At the end of the day, none of this will result in a leaner, less meaner federal leviathan. That’s what you ought to care about.
AG: Mike, one of the things that we talked about before the show, and it’s almost as if Sam was sitting here, was that there was a story in Politico about budget cuts and how the GOP wants huge budget cuts. You made the point that if you actually dive into the story and look at what the numbers say, there is a huge increase in defense spending. Can you make the correlation that yes, House GOP members still want all this funding to come in because they have to fund the DOD.
Mike: That’s right. They want a six percent increase, real money, real six percent, not baseline or anything. Oh, but they’re going to take a chainsaw to Health and Human Services and Education and whatever else, which I’m all for don’t get me wrong. You want a bigger Pentagon? For what purpose?
AG: Is that why we’re not seeing the huge amount of calls from these members of Congress to abolish the IRS, because they still need this funding to come in so they can —
AG: — fund their pet projects or pork in addition to — as Politico lays out yesterday, yeah, there are some cuts in there, but there are also some huge increases that aren’t being talked about nearly as much.
Mike: That’s right. Sam, had you heard that?
Caller Sam: No. Again, my frustration kind of applies back to what you guys are saying. Mike and AG, I hear you often talk — I go back to the leviathan. What I see central to this response is, again, it’s the dancing around but ultimately the support to keep this going but they need to behave. What does that mean? That doesn’t mean anything. It’s not getting to the core of we’re blowing $3.6 trillion a year — I think earlier you were very specific about this. How can you spend that money? That’s not being questioned by these representatives, I’ll call them, from the Republican side. It’s numerous that it’s a lack of specifics. It’s always this dancing, I guess I’ll call it for lack of a better description. Again, it is frustrating to me as a true fiscal conservative. I want to see real cuts. I don’t think we’re seeing real cuts. I don’t think I’m being in any way off the mark by saying that. As a loyal listener to you, I think you’re on the right track. I think along those lines. I’m an accountant by trade but I’m not a tax accountant. I am an accountant by trade and I do understand the numbers and I know it’s a joke.
Mike: It is. Not only is it a joke, I’d say on the people that fall for this and have been brainwashed and propagandized to believe left v. right, Republican v. Democrat, good guys on white horses, bad guys on black horses, all we’ve got to do is get our kids in there and change the batting order, change the starting quarterback and everything will be right with the world. The people that have been propagandized to believe this, I don’t believe that they’re bad people. I don’t believe that their intentions are bad either. The fact of the matter remains, when they are confronted with and given an opportunity to think differently about these things, and maybe even to think more historically — I think if you just add some historical thinking, instead of this romanticism and this mythology that we have with [mocking] “The founding fathers and the founding fathers wouldn’t have wanted it.” That’s kind of difficult to say. What we can say with certainty is that there were men of the founding generation that did warn about the evils of consolidation. They could never have imagined in their wildest nightmares, their worst nightmares, could never have imagined a consolidated monster like the one that we live under today.
Again and as I say, if you have made your peace with it and you are willing to just spend the rest of your life arguing over which team is in control of the spoils system, because that’s basically what it is, then God be with you, brother. Have at it. Enjoy. Some of us want nothing to do with that and think that’s a copout, especially if you are one of the productive members of society that has a significant portion of what you legally and rightfully earn taken from you, and then in the administration after it’s taken from you, you are then told you have no say-so in the redistribution of it. Sometimes it even affects you, your wife, your children, your relationship with your doctor. If this isn’t tyranny, I don’t know what is. I just think many people are just immune to it. As I said, if you want to be immune and spend your life being immune, that’s fine, but please, don’t throw yourself in with men of distinction who never would have, or I do not believe they would see any other course other than — you guys are not talking about having a meeting somewhere in Kansas about breaking this thing up because? Why aren’t you convening an un-continental congress and talking about this? Sam, brother, good to hear from you. Thank you very much.
Caller Sam: Thanks, Mike. It’s been really a treat. Again, I’ll maintain my role as a loyal listener and always look forward to the facts and figures as they flow.
Mike: I appreciate that. I’ll look forward to delivering them and, even when I fail to do so, correcting them in absentia.
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