Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “It’s the Mike Church Show here on the Crusade Channel, part of the Veritas Radio Network, radio the way it should be. Christopher Ferrara, the author of Liberty, the God That Failed is on the Dude Maker Hotline. You go to USSpending.gov and they find out that they live in a dioceses with a bishop that is accepting or that their dioceses has accepted blood money from the Obama administration in the form of Obamacare grants, block grants, contributions to various charities, etc., what is it that the laity can actually do?” Check out today’s transcript for the rest….
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Mike: You go to USSpending.gov and they find out that they live in a dioceses with a bishop that is accepting or that their dioceses has accepted blood money from the Obama administration in the form of Obamacare grants, block grants, contributions to various charities, etc., what is it that the laity can actually do?
Chris Ferrara: Cardinal Newman wrote an essay on this, which appeared in The Rambler [ph] magazine when he was alive on how during the Aryan crisis of the 4th century, when most of the one true Church either succumbed to the heresy of Aryanism, which denied implicitly the divinity of Christ or remained silent about it, during that time the laity kept the faith and passed it on better than the hierarchy. We’re living in a time, it seems to me, where a parallel situation has developed. The role of the laity is going to be to uphold the faith against liberalized hierarchs, liberalized bishops, and, I’m sorry to say, even a pope who appears to be the epitome of the modern liberal prelate, although in this case he happens to be sitting in the chair of Peter.
Again, the third secret of Fatima predicts there’s going to be a falling away. In a way, it’s a kind of inverse proof that we’re dealing with the one true Church because this is the battleground. The devil’s final battle will have to be a battle against the Catholic Church. Sister Caffara in a letter she wrote to him back in the ‘90s, that final battle is going to involve marriage and the family. There will be a struggle within the Catholic Church over marriage and the family, issues of sexuality, the so-called gay Catholic movement and so forth will be involved in this final conflict within the Church over fundamental matters of morality. We’re seeing that right now among Catholics.
Mike: It’s the Mike Church Show here on the Crusade Channel, part of the Veritas Radio Network, radio the way it should be. Christopher Ferrara, the author of Liberty, the God That Failed is on the Dude Maker Hotline. Get a copy of Liberty, the God That Failed in hardback in the Founders Tradin’ Post at MikeChurch.com today, signed and dated by Chris Ferrara. You will also find the crisis of novelty in the Catholic Church, The Great Façade, also available right there in the book section at MikeChurch.com/Shop, both signed and dated by Christopher Ferrara.
Let’s just stay on this subject for just a moment. I don’t think people – if you haven’t read the story and you’re not aware of what’s going on here, it’s not just that these charitable entities, or that the USCCB is accepting this money. For example, $91,132,305 in federal grants. US Refugee Admission Program – I talked about this yesterday — $53,405,755. The bishops are conspiring with the Obama administration to immigrate Muslim heretics into the United States, to place them in positions where it’s very likely they can either do great harm to the laity or even to those who are the non-converted. If not actual harm to life, what about the harm that they pose with their mosques and their other heretical functions to the deposit of faith? Is there any indication that there’s even an outreach to try and convert these people?
Ferrara: On the part of the laity only what you find on the internet and certain Catholic publications. There are objections on the part of the laity. There is a more or less concerted effort on the part of bloggers and Catholic journalists of the so-called traditionalist stripe to call the bishops to account for this behavior. It’s very mysterious indeed that during an election year – by the way, I have to issue this disclaimer. I speak only in my personal capacity, not as the president of any organization.
It seems very clear during this election that the choice could not be starker between the Republicans and Democrats, yet the bishops are pretending that they really can’t see a significant difference between the two platforms. Elizabeth [unintelligible] explains in the article this curious ambivalence by showing that, as you say, the American bishops are on the government teat to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year for refugee admissions, alien children programs, Cuban / Haitian entrance program subsidies and so forth. Then, of course, there’s the Catholic relief services, which are receiving massive amounts of money and distributing it for contraception.
Mike: Just shocking. Here’s the number. Total award fiscal year 2016, $202,247,624. That sum, the fact that it can be doled out, number one, is shocking. Number two, the fact that it is being accepted, that this devil’s bargain that was made in the late 1950s or early 1960s, that the religious institutions of the United States would, in exchange for not being regulated or whatever, or not being taxed, that they would accept this 501(c)(3), or whatever the designation that they accepted began. That’s when the plan was implemented. Now we see the end result of it.
Here’s what is even more shocking to me. In 2001 there was one vote – I talked about this yesterday. For those of you that are hearing this for the second time, I only say it for the benefit of new listeners. Because Chris wasn’t here yesterday, I’ll just relay it to him. In 2001 there was one vote against the BAIPA, Born-Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois. You know where it came from; it came from Obama. Then-Senator Obama was the only voice that spoke against it. He was the only person that voted against it in the entire Illinois Legislature. No one in the House and no one in the Senate voted against it. Obama was the only one that voted against it. Fast forward seven years and there he is being elected president. He has presided over an expansion of contraception and abortion on the public dole that in and of itself is shocking. How in the world an entity that claims to be Catholic, the last pure defender of the teaching against contraception and of the sanctity of life, how any transaction whatsoever can be accepted from the administration of this, the most diabolical pro-abortion leader maybe in world history, it just – I don’t have the words to describe it. Do you?
Ferrara: As I said, this is predicted in the Fatima message, that there would be an apostasy in the Church from top to bottom. Again, this affects the human element of the Church. You have to distinguish carefully between the human element and man with all their foibles and failings and the supernatural element of the Church, such that the Church has never officially defected from her teaching, but individual members of the Church can. That’s what we’re seeing. We’re seeing this massive falling away. The laity, for the most part, simply ignore any teaching on faith and morals they deem inconvenient or unacceptable. So Catholics today contracept and even obtain abortions at roughly the same rate as Protestants and even atheists. They’ve been so thoroughly liberalized by the Western democracies that they’re beyond even being liberal Protestants. They’re doing things the liberal Protestants of 50 years ago would have looked upon as absolute savagery. They’re getting abortions, divorced and remarried.
Now this whole issue in the Church of communion for the divorced and remarried has been raised by the pope himself, who’s opened the door to it, but not in any official way. He’s sending private letters. He’s giving winks and nods. Again, this is an apocalyptic development in the Church predicted by the mother of God. It’s the prelude to some sort of supernatural resolution, which will be very dramatic indeed. I can’t tell you when it’s going to happen. I would wage that it can’t be far off. When the Church descends to this level of confusion, throughout history we see that God chastises his people when they drift away from the truth. We’ve reached that point now. It can’t be long in terms of history, even if it’s another 25, 30, 50 years. That’s nothing in terms of the great sweep of history. We’re approaching a time of cleansing and renewal. This is a prelude to it, what we’re seeing in the Catholic Church today.
Mike: This was in the July 13 apparition that appeared at Fatima. That’s when this message was transmitted?
Ferrara: Yes. There’s a huge controversy over the third – you’ve touched on it in previous shows. The great message on July 13 consists of three parts. The first part, as we discussed earlier, is the vision of hell. The three children were shown hell. They saw souls floating about like transparent coals burning in the fires of hell. They were terrified by that vision. Our Lady explained it to them. She said: You have seen hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my immaculate heart, meaning the immaculate heart of the Blessed Virgin who gave birth to our Savior. She had to be immaculate by that very reason.
The second part of the great secret is the series of prophecies, every one of which came true. In the prophecy she says that the First World War, which was then waging would end soon, but that if men did not mend their ways, it would be a second worse war following a strange light in the night sky, which was seen, and that the war would break out during the pontificate of Pius XI. It did begin in 1939 with the Anschluss of Hitler. That prophecy came true.
She also prophesied the spread of Russia’s errors throughout the world. She said this in July of 1917, even though the Bolshevik Revolution in October of that year had not yet occurred. She was talking about the spread of communism, world communism, but not just the communist system, the other errors of Russia. What are those? They’re errors in the realm of morality. We saw in Russia the introduction of legalized abortion for the first time in the history of Christendom. Also postcard divorce. You could mail in a postcard and you were divorced. And, of course, there was contraception. The big three evils that are destroying the foundations of the family – divorce, contraception and abortion – originated in communist Russia. Those spread throughout the world, along with State centralization and soft socialism. We’re inflicted by those errors today. That’s the second part of the secret.
In the third part, we have a tantalizing hint of what’s in it. Our Lady began the third part of the great secret on July 13, 1917 by stating, and I’m quoting her words to the seer, “In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved etc.” Sister Lucia, the visionary, the last surviving visionary who wrote down those words in her fourth memoir, added the “etc.” because Our Lady, the Blessed Virgin, during this vision, went on to say more about what would happen outside of Portugal. The only logical deduction is that she was talking about a great crisis in the Church that would come. There’s a mountain of evidence. We can’t go into it here. There’s a book on it I’ve written called The Secret Still Hidden. It’s available for free online. Look up my name and the phrase “The Secret Still Hidden,” which documents the massive amount of evidence that there is a text which explains this coming crisis in the Church.
This text goes together with what the Vatican published on June 26, 2000, which it claimed was the entirety of the third secret of Fatima. After 40 years they finally published this part of the secret. In that vision we see a devastated city filled with dead bodies. We see a future pope struggling to escape the city. He’s limping. He gets out of the city. He goes to the top of the hill outside the city, kneels before a large wooden cross, and he is assassinated by a group of soldiers who kill him at the foot of this cross and then proceed to kill bishops, priests, and members of the laity in the same location, in the same way. That’s a pretty apocalyptic scenario. It looks like Rome has been mostly destroyed. The pope barely escapes with his life, only to be gunned down outside the city. The Vatican wants us to think, according to the Secretary of State Cardinal Sodano and his successor Cardinal Bertone, that this really represents nothing more than John Paul II not being killed during the assassination attempt in 1981. They’re hiding something, very much like Hillary Clinton.
Mike: Christopher Ferrara, who writes at The Remnant magazine and is the author of Liberty, the God That Failed is on the Skype Maker Hotline with us. Switching gears for just a moment but on the same subject, when the prophecy or when the apparition advanced to today’s date, did anything happen in Portugal on the 13th of September?
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Ferrara: By then the believers in the apparitions had grown in number. On September 13th, there was a crowd of about 30,000 people in this little field called the [unintelligible] just outside of the village of Fatima. IN this field, in the middle of it was an oak tree. Our Lady appeared over that tree in previous apparitions, which began in May of 1917 and in October of 1917. In September there were some manifestations that people could see. There was a globe of light that moved toward the tree. That signified the coming of the Blessed Virgin, who appeared over that tree. There was also a kind of atmosphere of fall out. It looked something like snow but was kind of translucent. It disappeared before it hit the ground. There was also a dimming of the sun so that the stars could be seen, which there was a kind of foretelling of the miracle that would come.
During this apparition, because there were skeptics, especially in the local press and others who were mocking the crowd and the entire event as nothing but superstitious nonsense, she said: I will come to perform a miracle so that all may believe. She made that promise on September 13. The miracle took place on October 13, precisely the time she said, in solar time. I guess we’ll discuss that in the next show, which we’ll talk about the miracle of the sun on October 13. That’s what happened on the 13th. She said also that Our Lord and herself and St. Joseph would appear on October 13 to bless humanity during the time of this miracle, which was then witnessed a month later by 70,000 people in the field. As we’ve discussed in previous episodes, this received worldwide press coverage, including the New York Times. There was even a Warner Brothers Movie about it. This is not some superstitious belief or a pious fable but an historic event witnessed by unbelievers, recorded by the secular press.
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