Caller Joe Is Proof Not All Liberals Are Horrible Progressives

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – I also don’t believe, Joe, any longer in too much of the right-left paradigm, especially as it applies to Mordor on the Potomac River, because they’re all corrupt and they’re all — I don’t want to say all.  Most of them are corrupt and most of them are deceitful.  They’re all in on the giant $4 trillion scam, which is just divvying up the proceeds of what they collect and then what they borrow in excess of what they collect.  Check out today’s transcript for the rest…

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Begin Mike Church Show Transcript

Mike:  Let’s go to the telephones.  Joe in Philadelphia first up here today on the Mike Church Show.  How you doing, Joe?

Caller Joe:  I’m doing very well.  I would like to compliment you on a wonderful Bain impression.  That was nice.  I’m listening to a lot more right-side radio, as it were, when this whole drone thing started to break.  It really does my heart good and makes me proud to hear conservatives talking about due process of law and having to get a warrant and all these things.  It’s about time.  What Bush did with the wiretaps and torture was wrong.  What Obama is doing now with the drones is worse.  We’re with you.  Speaking as the official representative of the left, we’re with you.

Mike:  You’re being facetious.  You’re pulling my chain.

Caller Joe:  I am totally not pulling your chain.  Don’t believe these partisan hack cheerleaders on MSNBC who are going to say whatever the guys in charge are going to say.  Liberals of principle are with you.  We wanted due process with the wiretaps.  We wanted due process with torture — well, we didn’t want torture anyway.  This drone thing, forget it.

Mike:  So you are a Glenn Greenwaldian.

Caller Joe:  Oh, yeah.  I’ve been reading Glenn Greenwald for years.

Mike:  I am a Glenn Greenwaldian.

Caller Joe:  Glenn Greenwald is on point.  He does a good job and has for a long time.

Mike:  I also don’t believe, Joe, any longer in too much of the right-left paradigm, especially as it applies to Mordor on the Potomac River, because they’re all corrupt and they’re all — I don’t want to say all.  Most of them are corrupt and most of them are deceitful.  They’re all in on the giant $4 trillion scam, which is just divvying up the proceeds of what they collect and then what they borrow in excess of what they collect.  The right-left paradigm, to me, is just something that doesn’t — maybe at one point in time in the French Revolution it may have held sway.  I don’t believe that it does today because this is all about money and power.

Caller Joe:  I think it needs to dissolve.  It’s about time already.  There are certain things that — the conservative model of economic thought and the liberal model of economic thought, we’ve still got to work on that.  As far as these foreign policy matters, when I’m agreeing with Rand Paul on foreign policy matters, I think we’re making some serious progress.

Mike:  There’s classical liberalism and there’s progressivism.  You sound more like a classical liberal than a progressive, and there is a difference.  Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt were progressives.  They were domesticators of the entire planet by the American Empire.  What the rest of the world needed was a heaping helping does of American exceptionalism and our hospitality.  Of course, we’re not very hospitable to them anymore.  The classical liberal position is that we’re free over here and we have classical liberal social system.  We have blind justice systems and due process.  That’s kind of how we roll.  We support anyone mentally and spiritually that seeks to be classically liberal like us, but we’re not going to force feed it to you.  If you don’t want it, that’s your business.  Don’t try to come over here and try to end our party.  That’s the classical liberal or the Jeffersonian way of thinking about these things.  Is that your way of thinking about them?

Caller Joe:  More or less.  I have a pretty much hands-off on foreign policy thing, although in matters — again, I think of myself more in the FDR school of liberalism where there is a commons and that a necessitous man is not free.  At the same time, if we can help where people are being — like the whole thing with getting involved in World War II was the morally right thing to do, to ally ourselves.  To take it from that level of things to where we are today, I think we’ve taken a couple of unfortunate bounds and we should probably check ourselves and pull it back a little bit.

Mike:  A little?

Caller Joe:  I don’t like this idea of colonizing the Middle East to make it our personal oil colony, regardless of what team jersey is in charge inside the beltway.  It seems like that’s what we’ve been trying to do for the past several decades.

Mike:  I wholeheartedly agree.  I’d like to see the entire Pentagon mothballed and turned into a nice shopping center and apartment complex.  I think that would be a nice use for it.  We could have a War Department again.  We don’t need to be the War Department of the planet or the War Department of the known universe.

Caller Joe:  And we don’t need to be in perpetual war either.  We need to use our resources wisely.  We can’t just constantly have our troops all over the world.  It’s a fool’s errand.  It’s what brought down the Soviet Union.  If we’re not careful, it’s going to bring us down.

Mike:  Sounds good to me.  Joe, you don’t sound like a lib to me.

Caller Joe:  I’m a lib, I promise.

Mike:  I’m glad to know that there are other Glenn Greenwaldians out there.

Caller Joe:  We’re here, man, and we’re with you.

Mike:  Joe, thank you very much.  Good to hear from you on a Free Phone Friday.  You never know who’s going to show up on these shows, do ya?

End Mike Church Show Transcript

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