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Evan Sayet Interview About His Book “KinderGarden of Eden: How the Modern Liberal Thinks”

Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Here’s a quote from the mouth of Evan Sayet himself about how the modern liberal thinks, be sure and check out today’s transcript for more and a link to his book The KinderGarden of Eden,  “They determined, the modern liberals, that thinking is the cause of every evil on this planet.  Everybody in the history of man has thought they were right, and that always led to wars, disagreements, religious conflicts.  They determined in the 1960’s that the way to end all wars, all homophobia, all genophobia, the way to end all oppression is to eliminate thinking.  If nothing is better than anything else, then we’ll have nothing to disagree about.  If we don’t disagree, we won’t fight.  If we don’t fight, we won’t go to war.  Without war, there will be no poverty.  Without poverty, there will be no crime.  It’s this utopian ideology that came about with Jean-Jacques Rousseau in the 1700’s.  It was recognized by everybody back then as utter moronity.”

 

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Begin Mike Church Show Transcript

Mike:  Evan, how are you, old friend?

Evan Sayet:  I’m well, Mike.  I want you to know I don’t get up at this hour for just anyone.

Mike:   I told the story earlier, the last time I saw you, I dumped you out of my car in front of your hotel on Charter Street with a 16-ounce Seagram’s 7 and 7 and a cigarette in your hand.

Evan:  And did you tell them what you were having while you were driving?

Mike:  Of course not!  Of course I didn’t.

Evan:  Some of my friends protect my reputation and others blast it over the radio station.  It was New Orleans, so you gotta forgive me.

Mike:  We had a good time.  What happens in New Orleans sort of stays in New Orleans.

Evan:  Unless it floats away.

Mike:  Exactly.  What is this KinderGarden of Eden: How the Modern Liberal Thinks book that you’re promoting on your website these days — by the way, it only took five years for you to crank this thing out.

Evan:  By the way, it’s not even the whole book.  It’s the first 120-something pages of it, but I really felt the need to get it out before the election.  I wanted to at least be part of the conversation.  Let me pimp my original talk first so people know.  This is not just another interesting case on how the liberals think.  This has been accepted as a definitive explanation.  You were just talking about 47 or 48 percent of the people who are aware of all these numbers, aware of where we are in the world, the precipice we’re approaching and yet they just don’t care.  The reason they just don’t care is because they don’t believe anything bad can ever happen to them.  They actually reside, in their minds, in kindergarten where nothing bad has ever happened, where the only bad thing you can do is be mean or bully somebody or be not nice.  Literally, they grew up through the education system where they were not educated in math, not educated in history; they were instead indoctrinated into what I call the cult of indiscriminateness.  They literally outlawed thinking.

They determined, the modern liberals, that thinking is the cause of every evil on this planet.  Everybody in the history of man has thought they were right, and that always led to wars, disagreements, religious conflicts.  They determined in the 1960’s that the way to end all wars, all homophobia, all genophobia, the way to end all oppression is to eliminate thinking.  If nothing is better than anything else, then we’ll have nothing to disagree about.  If we don’t disagree, we won’t fight.  If we don’t fight, we won’t go to war.  Without war, there will be no poverty.  Without poverty, there will be no crime.  It’s this utopian ideology that came about with Jean-Jacques Rousseau in the 1700’s.  It was recognized by everybody back then as utter moronity.  I’m filibustering here, Mike.  You only gave me 20 minutes today.  Don’t interrupt.

Mike:  You’ve got plenty of time.

Evan:  Back in the 1700’s, the 1800’s, the 1900’s, this ideology of intentional stupidity simply couldn’t be adopted because people had to be smart in order to avoid disease.  They had to be smart, that is right, correct, know what they’re talking about in order to avoid hunger.  They had to be smart.  They had to seek out the better.  They had to use their brains to seek out the better things because they could go hungry, could be impoverished, could suffer physical pain.  Suddenly, post-World War II, the world was not only a little bit different, it was a thousand-year leap forward technologically.

Suddenly post-World War II — if you were born when I was in 1960, you didn’t have to use your brain to avoid disease because there was no disease.  They had virtually eradicated smallpox, chicken pox, polio, the flu, which had wiped out two-thirds of a continent and now it’s a three-day paid vacation when you sat on your reclining sofa and watched one of the thousand television channels.  You didn’t have to be smart to avoid disease.  You didn’t have to be smart to avoid hunger.  All you had to do was find a dollar in the street and you could go get a three-course gourmet meal prepared by a world-class chef at the 99-Cent Store.  You didn’t have to be smart to avoid poverty.  Poverty was so close to extinction by the time I was born that just to call somebody impoverished, we had to invent a whole new definition of the word, a definition of such luxury that’s conceivable with kings and gods and popes wouldn’t dream for it.  One more point and then I’ll let you talk.  What would a king from 200, 500, 1,000 years ago have given to live in a one-room apartment in, let’s say Los Angeles, with its hot and cold running shower, with its water in the sink, where you don’t have to crap into an urn and put it under your bed?

Mike:  Evan is a comedian as well.  It’s EvanSayet.com, the book is an eBook.

Evan:  It’s also in print.

Mike:  Evan started all this because he gave a talk at the Heritage Foundation about six or seven years ago.  He talked about the apple not falling far from the tree.  One of the things that was in your original talk — I just want to tell this story and this will help flesh Evan’s approach to the book out a little bit.  One of the chapters, if you will, inside the talk that was a YouTube sensation, you talk about how the liberal anthem is the John Lennon song Imagine.  I’d never heard anyone ever challenge Imagine as being anything other than “Aw, peace for the world, love, goodness and harmony.”  The way Evan Sayet described and fleshed out what was really behind the lyrics of Imagine is nothing short of brilliant.

I just want to tell you, Evan, my daughter Reagan, named after Ronald, became a huge Beatles fan.  Of course, one of her favorite songs just happened to become, about two years ago, the song Imagine.  At the tender age of 13, I had to explain to her, I said, “I want you to think about the lyrics to that song.  I want you to think about what that dope-smoking lunatic was singing about.”  She still loves the song, but when it comes on the iPod if we’re in the car together, she’ll fast forward through it.  I’ll say, “Did you think about?”  She’ll say, “Yeah, I don’t agree with what he’s saying but I still like the song.”  Explain to the audience why the song Imagine is the liberal anthem.

Evan:  Go back to my original premise, which is that modern liberalism — which is not, by the way just a liberal who happens to be alive today.  It is a distinct ideology.  It’s a utopian ideology that’s based on the notion that thinking is the cause of all evil.  If you look at the lyrics in Imagine, what he’s saying is stop thinking.  Imagine there’s no country.  He doesn’t use his intellect to seek out better countries.  He doesn’t say imagine there are all liberal democracies, imagine there’s all democratic republics.  In this song, there is absolutely no difference between Hitler’s Germany and the United States which gave us every medicine that cured the world’s ills, every technology that’s feeding the world.  There’s absolutely no difference to the modern liberal, or in this song John Lennon, between the Holocaust and the Industrial Revolution.

He says imagine there’s no religion.  He doesn’t say imagine there’s all peaceful religions, imagine every religion taught love thy neighbor.  In the song, there’s absolutely no difference between religions that teach love your neighbor and ones that scream “Kill all infidels!”  If you go through every one of the things he imagines for this paradise, imagine there’s no possession.  Possessions are tangible proof that somebody has engaged in a better behavior.  The idea that the industrious, the hardworking should have exactly the same things as the drunk and the lazy, it’s all an anthem to abject stupidity.

The reason I call that book The KinderGarden of Eden, is because they believe if you can regress mankind to a point where he knows nothing, he doesn’t know that better nations exist.  If you can regress him morally and intellectually to the point that he doesn’t know that better religions exist, that better behaviors exist, then you will live in paradise.  That’s the premise that Lennon makes in that song.  In fact, in one of the final lines of the song, he states the modern liberal position.  He says imagine a time when everything and anything that mankind values has been so devalued that there’s nothing to kill or die for.

Mike:  [singing] Nothing to kill or die for, a no religion, too.

Evan:  I tell you what, it’s hard to pick on a song as lovely as that.  Even harder for me in this book is the way I rip Springsteen a new one.  I’m a big Springsteen fan.  Like your daughter is a fan of that song but she realizes it’s stupid, I’m the biggest Springsteen fan, but I can’t help but recognize that his arguments are stupid and destructive.

Mike:  You better watch it.  We have Springsteen fans on the staff here.

Evan:  I’m the biggest Springsteen fan.  I can’t say my password, but they have to do with Springsteen.  I actually say Springsteen is one of the two people outside my family and friends who have best helped me to be the man I wish to be.  There are so many kernels and nuggets and wonderful things you can take from Springsteen’s lyrics.  The body of his work, especially when it comes to the notion of toil, people who have jobs, Springsteen is not the champion of the working man.  Springsteen despises the working man.  He thinks anybody who has a job is not only stupid, desperate and in pain but on the verge of committing mass murder.  Listen to his lyrics.

Mike:  Tell me what you really think next time you call my radio program, Mr. Sayet.  I was listening to a song yesterday on Margaritaville.  I was listening to Glory Days.  It has the flowery stories about the guy that could throw the fastball and the chick he goes to visit. Then you get to the last verse and he and his buddy go back inside the bar, sat down and all they tell are boring stories.  How is there a boring story of a glory day?

Evan:  Well, because their glory days were when they were in high school.  Then they entered the real world and got a job.  That’s not glorious to Bruce Springsteen.  Glorious is being on stage in front of 60,000 people having them scream the first three letters of your name.  Everybody is a loser except for him because they all have jobs and he got to spend his life playing with his friends.

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