Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – Again, most people are missing the overriding drama and the overriding problem with this. The problem or the issue ought to be that you have an out-of-control, overreaching federal monster, a leviathan as envisioned by Hobbes, that knows no limits on its authority and has people that work for it that are not going to be accountable. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…
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IRS officials claimed on Friday that roughly 300 groups received additional scrutiny. Reps. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said Tuesday that the number has actually risen to 471.
Mike: I wonder how the number keeps going up. I also wonder what’s the methodology? How do you determine this? Is this one of those famed whistleblowers at the IRS adding to the tally? [mocking] “Aw, shucks, we left out letters R through Y. In our first audit we left those letters out. It was Jenkins. He’s new here. He left the file over in the coffee room so coffee got spilled on it. I went and re-ran the files, reprinted them, and here’s R through Y. It’s 471.”
AG: It does sound as if the initial search was Tea Party specific, then they added keywords within the filings of these groups to include Constitution or limited government, things like that. They actually weren’t, in their minds – as the news was talking about last night, these two rogue agents that started it did not have a wide enough scope, at least for limited government groups, so they expanded the keywords that would trigger the extra scrutiny and extra audits on these charity groups or non-profits.
Mike: In other words, we ran the numbers and ran the applications and didn’t get enough back. It’s kind of like when you’re searching for something and you’re using Google or Bing or Yahoo and you go: I put this search word in and only got 16 hits back. No, no, let me add a comma and then let’s search for this term, too. Then the search expands and we have all these people now that want to talk about the Constitution. What is partially amusing to me is why aren’t there any left-of-center libtards groups that preach Constitution? How would you exclude groups purporting to teach and advocate on the Constitution, how would you exclude between left versus right.
Here’s another thing: is there an official distinction between a — let me put this in terms everyone can understand. The designation that you’re looking for is tax code 501(c)(3). Does the C stand for conservative? Is there a 501(l)(3) or a 501(p)(3) for progressive? If you search for these words and it returns x-amount of hits back, do you then have to search inside of them to see? When someone files the application — I’ve never seen one of these things, so I have no clue as to what it looks like. I have no knowledge of what an application for a 501(c)(3) looks like whatsoever. When you file with the 501(c)(3), do you have to designate whether or not you’re left of center or right of center? Is there a chart where there is a House of Representin’ and you pick the right side of the chart or the left side of the chart? Is there a designation where you choose: What color would you like your color coding to be, red or blue? Many, many questions, few answers.
Again, most people are missing the overriding drama and the overriding problem with this. The problem or the issue ought to be that you have an out-of-control, overreaching federal monster, a leviathan as envisioned by Hobbes, that knows no limits on its authority and has people that work for it that are not going to be accountable. For those that instigated and did this, I asked the question yesterday. No one has responded to me yet so I’ll ask it again. For those that are fingered or are identified as having been involved in this, are their economic futures going to be ruined as they would if they did something like this in the private sector? I’m going to tell you that the answer to the question is no. They basically have federal immunity. [mocking] “Well, he had to step down. We had to fire some of these people.” I saw a quote from one congressman yesterday, “More heads need to roll.” Let me see if I understand this. You want to roll heads off at the IRS and you want to get rid of these people but you want to replace them with what, people that are friends of yours?
Mike: I would love to hear Boehner saying people have got to go to jail. [mocking Boehner] “I want to be clear. We’ve got a good system, if we could just get the people in there to do it the way they’re supposed to.”
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Speaker John Boehner: The IRS has admitted to targeting conservatives, even if the White House continues to be stuck on the word “if.” My question isn’t about who’s going to resign. My question is: Who’s going to jail over this scandal?”
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