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What did Mason say about the Constitution?

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Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript“Remember we started this whole conversation at the top of the program today with what?  A discussion of what?  Oligarchy.  There is no more democracy; there’s just oligarchy, meaning your vote doesn’t matter.  I want to reiterate this point as many times as I am able to today.  The authors conclude through empirical data, your, my, your neighbor’s vote does not matter.”  Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

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Mike:  What did Mason say about the Constitution?  Brutus repeated him.  See if you think he was right.  “There is no Declaration of Rights, and the laws of the general government being paramount to the laws and constitution of the several States, the Declarations of Rights in the separate States are no security.”  Did that come to pass?  In other words, you can have your own bill of rights in your own state.  You can say birth control is illegal here.  Our citizens ratified this constitution with that stipulation.  Sodomitical marriage is illegal here.  Citizens ratified the constitution with that amended to it.  That’s their own bill of rights.

Remember, error has no rights.  Sodomites pretending to be married do not have the right to legally commit their error and have a legitimate, meaning it’s in harmony with, it’s conformed itself to the reality that its laws must conform and be under God’s laws, the eternal laws.  That’s their right.  They may have that in their constitutions.  Virginia did.  What did a federal judge tell them?  Nope, sorry, can’t happen.  Kicked it out.  There were 29 states that had laws on the books against sodomites marrying.  How many of them are still preventing sodomites from marrying?  Zero point zero.

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There is no Declaration of Rights, and the laws of the general government being paramount to the laws and constitution of the several States, the Declarations of Rights in the separate States are no security. Nor are the people secured even in the enjoyment of the benefit of the common law, stands here upon no other foundation than its having been adopted by the respective states forming the constitution of the several States.

In the House of Representatives there is not the substance but the shadow only of representation; which can never produce proper information in the legislature, or inspire confidence in the people; the laws will therefore be generally made by men little concerned in, and unacquainted with their effects and consequences.

The Senate have the power of altering all money bills, and of originating appropriations of money, and the salaries of the officers of their own appointment, in conjunction with the president of the United States, although they are not the representatives of the people or amenable to them . . .

The President of the United States has no Constitutional Council . . . He will therefore be unsupported by proper information and advice, and will generally be directed by minions and favorites; or he will become a tool to the Senate–or a Council of State will grow out of the principal officers of the great departments; the worst and most dangerous of all ingredients for such a Council in a free country . . .

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Mike:  I’m thinking when Mason says that he’ll have minions, I’m thinking of the movie Despicable Me and the minions.  Imagine that Congress is now surrounded by a bunch of the characters from Despicable Me, all run by some Gru figure before Gru went good.  These are Mason’s complaints about the Constitution before it was ratified.

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The President of the United States has the unrestrained power of granting pardons for treason, which may be sometimes exercised to screen from punishment those whom he had secretly instigated to commit the crime, and thereby prevent a discovery of his own guilt.  [Mike: See Richard Nixon.]

Under their own construction of the general clause, at the end of the enumerated powers, the Congress may grant monopolies . . .

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i voted hi resMike:  Remember we started this whole conversation at the top of the program today with what?  A discussion of what?  Oligarchy.  There is no more democracy; there’s just oligarchy, meaning your vote doesn’t matter.  I want to reiterate this point as many times as I am able to today.  The authors conclude through empirical data, your, my, your neighbor’s vote does not matter.  The Constitution has brought all this about.  If the Constitution has brought all this about, it must be flawed.  These are George Mason’s flaws.  This is before the Constitution was ratified, when there was still a chance to say no.  He’s begging his countrymen: Look, dude, this is what’s going to happen if you ratify this monstrosity.

Folks, don’t misunderstand, the Constitution as ratified could have worked if all the amendments had been added in, including representation, including clarification on the “good and plenty” clause, including clarification on the war clauses, including clarification on the militia.  Instead, we got a very verbose, very difficult for modern man to understand Second Amendment when it comes to the militia.  The Second Amendment is not about guns; it’s about militias.  If you think it’s about guns, you don’t know what you’re talking about, and you’re parroting the erroneous line fed to you by the deceitful National Rifle Association.  [mocking] “Mike, I’m a member and I’m a Founders Pass Member and I’m offended.”  You ought to be offended by the NRA lying to you, telling you that the Second Amendment is universal from here to the ice world of Hoth and back.  It isn’t, and it was never intended to be.  What was intended to be was to ensure that Congress never grabbed the authority over the militias.

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. . . for they may be induced to join in any dangerous or oppressive measures to shelter themselves, and prevent an inquiry into their own misconduct in office; [Mike: He’s talking about cabinet offices like Mrs. Clinton.] whereas, had a constitutional Council been formed, as was proposed, of six Members, that is, two from the Eastern, two from the Middle, and two from the Southern States, to be appointed by vote of the States in the House of Representatives, with the same duration in office as the Senate, the executive would always have had safe and proper information and advice; the President of such a Council might have acted as Vice President of the United States, pro tempore, upon any vacancy or disability of the Chief Magistrate, and the long continued sessions of the Senate would in a great measure, have been prevented.

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Mike:  Folks, I had not read that clause in a long time.  Mark Kreslins, if you’re listening, you can do an entire show on this.  What Mason is basically saying here is, in the convention, we posed a purely, by definition guaranteed and set up in constitutional doctrine, federal system.  Did you catch the part about “whereas, had a constitutional Council been formed, as was proposed, of six Members, that is, two from the Eastern, two from the Middle, and two from the Southern States” – listen very carefully all you Teddy and the Cruz zombies out there.  You need to hear this, “. . . to be appointed by vote of the States in the House of Representatives, with the same duration in office as the Senate . . . .”  What he’s saying there is, instead of voting by congressional district members of the House of Representative would had to have gotten together – say there’s six from one state – and gone: How does our state want us to vote on this council?  Who should we nominate?  Where would you find that at?  How could you get an agreement or a quorum on that?  You’d have to have gotten it from where?  The legislature or the people of the state. In other words, you’re guaranteed a federal representation in the House of Representatives as they had in the Senate.  That’s a further check upon abuse.  Finally, Mason concludes:

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By declaring all treaties supreme laws of the land, the Executive and the Senate have, in many cases, an exclusive power of legislation; which might have been avoided by proper distinctions with respect to treaties, and requiring the assent of the House of Representatives, where it could be done with safety.  From this fatal defect of a constitutional Council has arisen the improper power of the Senate.

Under their own construction of the general clause, at the end of the enumerated powers, the Congress may grant monopolies in trade and commerce, constitute new crimes, inflict unusual and severe punishments, and extend their powers as far as they shall think proper; [Mike: Ask yourself the question: Has that happened?] so that the State legislatures have no security for the powers now presumed to remain to them, or the people for their rights.

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There is no declaration of any kind, for preserving the liberty of the press . . .

The State legislatures are restrained from laying export duties on their own produce . . .

This government will set out a moderate aristocracy: it is at present impossible to foresee whether it will, in its operation, produce a monarchy, or a corrupt, tyrannical aristocracy; it will most probably vibrate some years between the two, and then terminate in the one or the other.

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Mike:  It terminated in, as George Mason wrote in November 1787, as a corrupt, oppressive aristocracy.  Again, the exercise is not to carp and whine and complain about it.  I’m simply pointing out that one of the men that helped frame the Constitution knew it was flawed from the get-go.  When little Tommy Johnson down the street says, [mocking] “But I love the Constitution.  We have to have it.  The founding fathers said so.”  The founding fathers did not say so.  The founding fathers pretty much said the opposite.  In ratifying the document they said: Look, this thing has to be viewed as very limited in scope and as very limited in its construction, meaning how we interpret it.  Everything that I just read you from George Mason buttresses and supports that point.

We also can rely then again on – if you want to start quoting the founding fathers, let’s start quoting the founding fathers about federalism, about preserving federalism being preferable to preserving union.  If they would have been given the choice to preserve our federation and federal tendencies in republicanism or union, which do we choose?  They would have chosen federalism.  What do you choose?  Too many of you are going right now, “USA! USA! USA!”  You choose ‘Muricah.  You can still choose ‘Muricah, you can just choose your own independent ‘Muricah.  Can, as I choose, one organized under and organized by and in obedience to and any documents ratified or any form is made in pursuance of the almighty law of God.

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