Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – I don’t have any problem with the Pennsylvania attorney general having whatever opinion she likes to have or wishes to have about the importance of or judiciousness of the gay marriage ban in Pennsylvania. The fact of the matter is you run for the office of attorney general so that you can enforce the laws of the state, whatever state that may be, or you may be appointed to enforce the laws that the executive branch is enforcing for the federal union. You don’t get to write the laws. You don’t get to pick and choose. Check out today’s transcript for the rest…
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Mike: We have this story that is just gnawing at me. It’s eating out my sustenance. “Pennsylvania attorney general refuses to defend gay marriage ban.” I don’t have any problem with the Pennsylvania attorney general having whatever opinion she likes to have or wishes to have about the importance of or judiciousness of the gay marriage ban in Pennsylvania. The fact of the matter is you run for the office of attorney general so that you can enforce the laws of the state, whatever state that may be, or you may be appointed to enforce the laws that the executive branch is enforcing for the federal union. You don’t get to write the laws. You don’t get to pick and choose: I don’t like that one, so I’m not going to enforce it. I think that one’s not constitutional, so I’m not going to enforce it. You do what everyone else does, what all the rest of us mortals out here do. You work to change the law, which you are free to do as a private citizen, but the AG is refusing. Her name is Kathleen Kane.
Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane announced Thursday that she will not defend the state’s gay marriage ban against a challenge brought by 21 gay Pennsylvanians who want to marry in the state or have their out-of-state marriages recognized.
“We are the land of the free and the home of the brave, and I want to start acting like that,” Kane said at a news conference Thursday in Philadelphia. Kane, a Democrat, said she believes the state’s law is unconstitutional and can’t in good conscience defend it.
Mike: Are you kidding me? Well, if an attorney general for a state can’t defend the state’s own laws in good conscience, I have to ask the question: Who can? Let me ask you fair citizen of Pennsylvania, what if you don’t like some of Pennsylvania’s laws and you think they’re unconstitutional? Do you have to obey them? Your attorney general says they’re unconstitutional. Or if they are unconstitutional, you can, I guess, in good conscience just not obey them. Just say: I can’t in good conscience obey that speeding law. I can’t in good conscience obey that bigamy law. Are you really, seriously saying this, madam? You do realize that you are one of the chief legal law enforcement authorities in the Keystone State. This is an outrage. Of course, what I find outrageous today I can’t get an amen or second on to save my life these days. I’ll bear the brunt of the outrage.
The American Civil Liberties Union is backing the suit, which was filed this week and includes 10 same-sex couples and one widow. They argue that the state refusing to allow them to marry or recognize their out-of-state marriages violates their “fundamental right to marry as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”
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Mike: There it is again, folks, the 14th Amendment, the miracle amendment. There is nothing on earth that the 14th Amendment cannot sanction. There is no activity known to man that the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution cannot bless. It doesn’t matter what it is. You can be as farcical and fantastical as you want. If you want to do it, then the 14th Amendment says that you can. Then the state must let you do it. As a matter of fact, they’re probably going to have to write a law saying they have to let you do it….
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By the bye, the 14th Amendment, if you really want to get into the nuts and bolts of this, what the 14th Amendment’s Due Process Clause actually says is that those homosexual couples in Pennsylvania must be guaranteed access to the law of Pennsylvania, not their interpretation or their preference of how they wish the law was. They have due process access to the law. You couldn’t be more wrong if you woke up in the morning and tried to be more wrong, madam, but then again I’m just a little pipsqueak of a radio host. What do I know about legalities? [mocking] “What do you know? You’re not a lawyer. Did you go to law school?” Thank heaven I did not. I got my Constitution schooling from these guys you call founders and framers.
As Kevin Gutzman, my friend who wrote James Madison and the Making of America and a professor of history of the highest reputation says: Mike, the problem is, when you go to law school they don’t teach the Constitution; they teach judges’ interpretations of the Constitution. So we have this out-of-control, rogue attorney general now in Pennsylvania refusing to enforce the laws of that state. I’d like to know what people in Pennsylvania are saying about this.
Kane, as well as Republican Gov. Tom Corbett, is a defendant in the suit. This Pennsylvania case, as well as others cropping up around the country will likely force the Supreme Court to again take up the issue of gay marriage and answer advocates’ calls to address the question of whether same-sex couples have a fundamental right to wed.
Mike: Again, this is really not a subject for the discussion in the political realm. The act and consecration of marriage is an act and a vow made in front of God. It is a religious ceremony. Government ought to get out of it at every level and should do nothing more than acknowledge: Oh, you guys are married, and you have that address here. You can file your taxes from that address, that’s cool. That’s about the extent of it. The idea here or the proposition that is being promoted is that you can’t have an interpretation of or a defense of a marriage law, if I’m understanding this correctly, rooted in a religious precedent. If someone is to come around to a state and say you must accept and must marry and must honor the homosexual couple’s preference, and if we’re talking about that preference being exercised in an ecclesiastical body — you know them as churches — then what’s going to happen then when the first church says no? Are we going to see martyrs prisons built out there?
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Do you know what I do every day, ladies and gentlemen, before I leave my house for work every morning? My dear friend Patrice Juneau gave me a copy of St. Joseph’s Daily Missal. If you’re a Catholic you know what I’m talking about. It’s really, really enlightening. In the back part of the missal, every day of the 365 of them, you can read the stories of the martyr that was canonized on this day. Today is St. John of Gaulbert. I read it this morning. It’s a great guide. You read the stories of the saints and martyrs and how they became saints and martyrs. These were people once, just like us. Through divine acts, they were recognized by the Holy Catholic Church as being saints and martyrs. The Eastern Orthodox Church has its own different canonization and recognition of saints.
The point that I’m going to make about this is that that is part of the canon and tradition of that church. You see all these stories of martyrs and how they refused to do things and what Roman emperors like Hilarion would do to them. They’d cut their heads off. There were women that were young girls that refused to lose their virginity and they were martyred as well. The story from today’s saint was somebody from his family was murdered and he went and sought the murderer and found him. He was going to kill him and the murderer got down on his knees and begged him in the name of Jesus to not kill him. The power of the spirit came over St. John of Gaulbert. He spared the man’s life and became a monk.
Are we approaching the day where there will be people of religious faith who refuse to perform homosexual unions or refuse to recognize what they believe to be a religious aberration in homosexuals and are going to be martyred right in front of our very eyes? Are we going to build prisons to lock these people up in? If you’re going to say you have to do something, then you have to have an enforcement mechanism, aren’t you? What’s going to be the enforcement mechanism? Are you going to lock priests up because they refuse? Are you going to lock parishioners up because they refuse to acknowledge? We don’t have religious freedom. We’re on a very, very dangerous course here, ladies and gentlemen.
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