How Is Human Life Defined In Islam?
Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – “Andrew Bieszad, our resident Islamic scholar, is on the Dude Maker Hotline with us. Andrew, a lot of people are going to be saying after this, [mocking] “It’s still not fair to profile Muslims. It’s still not fair to be on guard against the Muslim. Despite this happening here, the rest of them are nice and wonderful, peaceful people. They’re never going to go jihad like these people went.” I say: You’re not looking at this – you’re not viewing them the way they view them.” Check out today’s transcript for the rest….
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At the Islamic Center of Riverside, where Farook had . . .
Mike: Andrew, I’ve also changed some of my language here to be a little more truthful and honest today. I changed it just this morning. I’m going to read this to you from the Los Angeles Times as I read it to the earlier audience. I’ll read it to the audience now. Are you ready?
Andrew Bieszad: Read it to me.
Mike: I want your comments on this.
At the Islamic Center of Riverside, where Farook had [Mike: practiced his heresy] worshipped until about two years ago, [Mike: heresy director] mosque director Mustapha Kuko described him as quiet, private and devoted to Koran study.
“He knows that we believe that to take one life is to take all life. So for him to do the opposite of what we as Muslims believe … I don’t know,” Kuko said.
Mike: What say you?
Bieszad: That is a beautiful example of taqiya in action. Let me go into it. He’s quoting from the hadith where it said Muhammad did say in one of the hadiths that if you take one life is though one takes all of humanity. Now, the question becomes then – people think that applies to everyone. The question, as I’ve said before on your show, what is human life in Islam. Remember, human life in Islam is defined by your belief in and practice of Islam, because your humanity comes from that. See, your humanity in Islam is not an intrinsic quality. It’s not like I am created, therefore I am human, like we teach in the Catholic faith. Your humanity is conditional upon and derives from and is in proportion to your belief and in practice of Islam. This is the reason why there’s a standard for Muslims and a standard for non-Muslims. It is also the reason why you see Muslims mistreating other Muslims terribly. They will beat them and kick them if they are of a lower social class than they are. The reason why is they believe that Allah has favored them with more blessings – remember, in Islam, beatitude begins in this life through the acquisition of temporal goods, and extends eternally into the hereafter. Life is basically – heaven is basically one big orgy, let’s put it that way.
Bieszad: If you look at it like this, therefore, a Muslim who is rich is blessed more by Allah than a Muslim who is poor because he is a better Muslim. He can abuse another Muslim
because that Muslim isn’t a good Muslim. Maybe if he becomes a good Muslim, he would get money and power. Likewise, like you said, to take one life is to take all of humanity. You’re right, it is that in Islam. The fact is, though, he did not take Muslim life, he took non-Muslim life, because they are not worth anything. So he didn’t actually kill humans; he killed animals.
Mike: That’s what I was explaining earlier. Maggie O’Connell is telling me she’s watching this in the other room, that the guy from [?] is saying that 95 percent of those that were killed in the center there were Muslims. I haven’t seen that, but if they were Muslims, if they weren’t orthodox, then they were dogs, right?
Bieszad: Precisely. Like I’ve said, even if they were actually Muslims, which, of course, we know they weren’t, the fact is, if they were Muslims, he could easily say as many Muslims say, they’re actually infidel Muslims; they’re not practicing Islam truly, and therefore I was justified in killing them. You couldn’t argue against that. He would be right.
Mike: So when Senator Dianne Feinstein says: I cannot imagine that a mother would drop her child off to go commit mass murder like this, I just can’t imagine it. I said: Senator, that’s because you’re not looking at it correctly. I can imagine it. What you can’t wrap your head around is the fact that that woman did not believe she was going off to commit mass murder. She was going off to liberate the infidel from his body, right?
Bieszad: Precisely. That is the whole point of it. In Islam, if you are not a Muslim, you are not worth anything. You are an animal. You can be treated like an animal. It’s not required, like I said, but if a Muslim chooses to do it, there is no sin attached to that. At the very least, the crunchy green granola version is that it’s what he wants to do. In the real orthodox version, it’s he is fulfilling the sixth commandment of Islam.
Mike: And what is the sixth commandment of Islam?
Bieszad: Jihad, the sixth pillar.
Mike: The sixth pillar is the jihad. Andrew Bieszad, our resident Islamic scholar, is on the Dude Maker Hotline with us. Andrew, a lot of people are going to be saying after this, [mocking] “It’s still not fair to profile Muslims. It’s still not fair to be on guard against the Muslim. Despite this happening here, the rest of them are nice and wonderful, peaceful people. They’re never going to go jihad like these people went.” I say: You’re not looking at this – you’re not viewing them the way they view them. Are there any – we keep hearing that there were no warning signs, that they were all peaceful and they all loved each other, and he was a wonderful dad and all this other stuff here. Are there any warning signs? How do you know? How could you know that someone who may be Muslim or may be practicing Islam is beginning to think in an orthodox way?
Bieszad: That’s real easy to answer. Watch them. The fact that they subscribe to Islam should be a warning to you anyway. Yes, you need to profile because the fact is, Islam fits a pattern. Profiling does not answer everything, but you need to profile for your own survival. Guess what? You really need to do it all the time. How do you think they survive? If they didn’t profile, they’d all be dead. You need to profile. I would say you have a moral obligation to do so, because if you don’t know, if you can’t define who your enemy is versus friend, at least in some basic, fundamental way, you’re walking into north Memphis, Tennessee with a sign that says “I have lots of money in my pockets.” You’re going to get killed.
What are the signs to look for? Here are the signs, very simple. If you ever look at a Muslim person, look at his beard. How big is his beard? How well maintained is it? A beard is a sign of piety in Islam. If a Muslim starts growing a beard, depending how long it gets and how well he maintains it, that’s a warning sign. Another warning sign: What kind of clothes is he wearing? Is he wearing just regular clothes? Is he taking better care of himself if he’s wearing American clothes, buying nicer, cleaner, very well presented? Is he starting to transition to traditional Middle Eastern dress, especially the long white robes? Is he wearing a skullcap? Has he started to wear a skullcap, the kufi as they call them, those little things they put on the back of their heads? Has he worn them before? Is he wearing musk oil? Muhammad used to wear musk cologne. A lot of them don’t do this except the real pious ones. They will wear musk cologne. Does he quote the Quran and the Hadith more often? Does he insist upon going to prayer five days a week? Does he start criticizing people for eating pork? Does he rant about the evils of eating pork, the Jewish conspiracy that obviously dominates the entire world? Does he start ranting about other means of Islamic teaching? That’s the way you tell.
Mike: Where are my Lions of the Faith books, sir?
Bieszad: I’ve actually got them in my car now.
Mike: Get them out of your car and get them to FedEx.
Bieszad: I’ve got to get them to FedEx. I had a little – I have – I live out in the country, for those of you who don’t know. I raise chickens. I will put it like this, you might have a little bit of hay in them because I had an accident with a bale of hay in my car and the box of books. I’m trying to get the hay out of them. The chickens needed the hay. My kids got into the car and, well . . .
Mike: Let me ask you another question. Are you and I, in doing what we are doing here to try and warn people, are we becoming, are we trying to become, and are others who attempt to do this, are we trying to become lions of the faith?
Bieszad: Yes, you must me. You must be. Let me put it like this. You have a choice when you’re dealing with Islam. It’s very simple. Muhammad said he came to give clear proofs of evidence [Arabic], to enjoin the right and forbid the wrong. You have a choice. As Islam comes to dominate a society and gains more power, you either stand up in your faith and you rise up against it and you hold your ground, or you submit. This is inevitable. It has happened in every society into which Islam has moved into. Either it will become very much, in the case of Christian or Catholic society, either embraces the faith or the people embrace the Muslims. There is no middle ground. Heresy cannot stand in it.
I will tell you this, the biggest warning is that many times heretics will convert to Islam. Case and point, Bosnia. Bosnia was enmeshed in the heresy called the Bogomil heresy during the 14th century when Islam invaded. Guess what? All the Bogomils mass converted to Islam. The ones who did not were the Catholics and these minority Eastern Orthodox Christians, who persisted in their faith. They fought with them for centuries, and still do.
Mike: We have some calls. Some people have some questions. Are you ready?
Bieszad: Shoot. Fire away. Give it your best shot.
Mike: Here is David in Delaware. Hi, David. How are you?
Caller David: Good. How are you doing?
Mike: I am well.
Caller David: My question is, a friend of mine at church – I’m a Christian – he said he was having a conversation with his colleague who was in the Air Force. He was saying he was a Muslim. He said that as a Christian, if a Muslim kills me, then I will be away from Allah for a short time, but actually I’ll be in Allah’s grace. Is that true or false?
Bieszad: That’s a great example of taqiya. He’s quoting Quran, Chapter 2, Verse 256. He’s only half quoting it. This was part of Muhammad’s great speech that he gave when he was in Medina. Basically, he said that he was trying to convince the Jews, Christians, and pagans over there to come join his cult. One of the things he said was
that Jews, Christians, and pagans, they will be with Allah in paradise. Then he goes on to another part about those who believe and do righteous deeds and so forth. The fact is, those verses are mansukh. They were abrogated.
In Islam, there’s another part called abrogation, which means that Allah can change divinely revealed teaching. It makes no logical sense, but the fact is, that is what Islam believes. Orthopraxy is not over orthodoxy. Basically, those verses were negated by Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 29, “fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, and do not forbid that which in the messenger have forbidden.” This is a position that has been maintained by every Islamic scholar since Muhammad’s time through today. If you do not believe me, I suggest you check any of the Muslim Mufassirin, the Quran commentators, or any of the hadith writings. This is a very clear matter.
Mike: Next up is Chris in Memphis. He’s near you. You’re in Chattanooga; Chris is in Memphis. You’re on with Andrew Bieszad on the Crusade Channel, Veritas Radio Network. Hey, Chris, how you doing?
Caller Chris: Hey, Mike. I’m fine, thank you. Hey, Andrew. I just want to let you know that St. Paul would be proud of you. You’re fighting the good fight.
Bieszad: Thank you.
Caller Chris: The question I wanted to ask Andrew, everybody looks around. We as Americans tend to be secular. You see Muslims, they’re mild-mannered if they’re secular, but when they become orthodox, more religious, they either convert people or they kill them; whereas, we as Christians, when we become more orthodox, more faithful, we become like Mother Teresa. We give stuff up. We’re supposed to sacrifice ourselves to spread Christ’s word. We become more peaceful. Is that a good analogy?
Bieszad: Excellent analogy.
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