What If Trump Wins, Should Be What If Life Wins

Mandeville, LA – Exclusive Transcript – What you’re also neglecting, you people that think that Reagan and Trump are the same, you’re just wrong.  There’s no sense in even discussing this.  Ronald Reagan wrote books about the political process.  Ronald Reagan acted as a governor.  Ronald Reagan gave dozens of speeches as a Republican contender, as an advocate for certain things, as an advocate for a balanced budget amendment, for example.  Check out today’s transcript for the rest….

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Mike:  I had this story earlier today, or this opinion piece, “What If Trump Wins?” by Jeff Greenfield at Politico.com:

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Every political analyst, every political observer, every politician is absolutely sure that Donald Trump is not going to be the Republican nominee for president in 2016. And we’re all absolutely sure that Donald Trump is not going to be sworn in as president on January 20, 2017. Could we all be wrong?

So far, every poll seems to only be giving him more strength. Who would have thought even a month ago that as we enter the first GOP debate of the presidential election that Donald Trump, The Donald Trump, would be the leader in every single national poll and gaining strength in all the early primary and caucus states? Time and time again, in just a few weeks, his candidacy seems to have survived what we professional political observers all think are obviously fatal gaffes

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and flubs. Could this be the rare instance when politics is actually about to go haywire?

If you threw a ball up in the air and it didn’t come down, what would you think? Maybe it landed on the roof or got stuck in a tree. You would not think that the law of gravity had been repealed.

So if you’re trying to figure out why Donald Trump has so far left the political class in a state of stunned disbelief, it might be wise not to abandon every assumption about politics, but to ask a different question: When and why do voters behave in ways that seem to break the rules? When are bedrock assumptions about campaigns rendered at least temporarily inoperative? In this context, poll numbers taken months before an election don’t count; while they can measure a public mood, the choice of a candidate is something like a customer in a store trying on hats. The more telling question is: When do voters actually cast their ballots in ways that upend core premises?

One answer, based not on guesses about what might happen, but on what has happened in America’s political past, is that when disaffected voters discover a power that they did not realize they had, highly unanticipated consequences may follow.

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Mike:  Then he gives the story about Jesse Ventura and about how they said Ventura couldn’t do it and Ventura made it.  They said Al Franken couldn’t do it and Al Franken made it.  What he’s leaving out here – there are a couple things he’s leaving out.  I’m not going to get into all of the rest of this.  It’s an interesting piece.  It’s posted in today’s Pile of Prep.  The part that he’s left out of this, or the part that he hasn’t addressed here, is that there are those that have made it and there are also those that have attempted over and over again and never made it.  H. Ross Perot comes to mind.

If you go back to the turn of the last century, you’ll find that a guy who went by the name of William Jennings Bryan unsuccessfully tried five times.  You’ll find the American socialist, Eugene Debs, tried three or four times, the last time from inside jail because he was jailed under the Sedition Act.  There have been many populist upstarts – back in the 1930s, the governor of Louisiana, “The Kingfish” Huey Long, was rumored: Long is going to upset Roosevelt and the New Deal and all that.  So this has happened on many occasions.

Some people are trying to say: What about Ronald Reagan?  Isn’t he just like Ronald Reagan?  That depends on what your historical knowledge is.  You might recall that Ronald Reagan was a spokesperson of sorts for Barry Goldwater in that campaign, that ill-fated campaign that allegedly put the dagger in doctrinaire conservatism.  Goldwater was trounced.  Reagan then went on to run for the governorship of New York.  He was elected twice.  Then he remained active in party politics.  Then he ran for president in 1976.  He was rebuffed by President Gerald Ford.  This was during the Bicentennial.  He gave that famous impromptu speech that Ford asked him to give at the Republican Convention in 1976.  Of course, when he ran again in 1980, he had built up a coterie and a very strong following in the Reagan Revolution.

What you’re also neglecting, you people that think that Reagan and Trump are the same, you’re just wrong.  There’s no sense in even discussing this.  Ronald Reagan wrote books about the political process.  Ronald Reagan acted as a governor.  Ronald Reagan gave dozens of speeches as a Republican contender, as an advocate for certain things, as an advocate for a balanced budget amendment, for example.  People forget that’s one of the things that Reagan ran on.  When he got to Mordor, he dampened the very strong initiative for a federal convention, an Article V convention, or a congressionally-sponsored amendment to balance the federal budget.  He said he’d get it done.  There were a whole series of efforts, Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, you name it, in the ‘80s.  The point is that after he was an actor and private citizen, Ronald Reagan then became a politician.  He worked very long and for very many years in the political process.  He was not an actor when he was elected in 1980.  That’s just fantasy.  If you want to think like that, please continue to, and continue to tell your friends that’s the way it is.

Many of you want Trump to get in there because you want someone cursed out or you went a federal agency to be told to go pound sand, or you want someone to stand up to this little tinhorn tyrant and agency or that little tinhorn tyrant and agency.  I agree with you.  Those things probably have not – not probably – those things have unequivocally not been done often enough.  That’s the limitation of the office.  That’s not necessarily the limitation of the man.  It goes without saying that President Bush, President Obama after him, President Clinton before him, were very much policymakers, were very much Machiavellian political leaders, were very much legislators, were very much users of the so-called bully pulpit of Theodore “screw everything up” Roosevelt.  The analysis that says that that didn’t happen is not correct.  It did happen.  It may not have happened in the manner in which you wanted it to happen, but it did happen. [/private]

Now, is there something that a candidate could be elected for that could make a substantial difference in the actual life of many actual people?  The answer to that query is, well, I can think of one thing or one scenario under which yes, that could happen.  That would be, we asked the question yesterday: Is this country going to be the country, are we going to proceed forward and are we going to have as a statement of affirmation “Yes, the United States of America kills, murders its own children for its own self-aggrandizing, selfish, sinful, diabolical and purely worldly or material pleasure, satisfaction, convenience?”  Yes, we do.  We’re not going to stop.  Or does the United States of America stop, not kill its children, stop being self-centered, selfish, immoral, prone to the diabolical, deniers of the divinity of our Lord, of Almighty God himself, of thousands of years of moral theology which produced tradition?  Someone said back in 1992, when Bill Clinton was standing on the precipice of becoming president, [mocking] “William Jefferson Blythe, I didn’t have – they’re still gonna elect me.  Yeah, I was having that fling ding with them girls.  Hillary don’t mind.  Hillary don’t mind anything as long as she can hang out in the White House.”  Someone said this back in 1992.  That was true then and it’s true today.

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